Lauzon analyzes Palhares' subs

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  1. pincmil

    pincmil Green Belt

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    Rousimar holds onto subs about 5 times longer than his average.

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  2. filthynumber1

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    Louzon towing dat company line
     
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    Rousimar is a dirty, psycho bully.

    He has got some of the best submission skills in the game but is mentality is just plain fucked up.

    I don't know what is running through his head when he is cranking the sub and feels the tap? It must make him hard at night, or why else would he continue to do it time and time again.
     
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    Lots of respect for Lauzon. Zero respect for Palhares (or his supporters).
     
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    Toxxus The Ancient One

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    Usually if you feel 3-4 hands tapping you frantically you should realize the referee has arrived and it's time to let go.
     
  7. Mr. Hammer

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    Why would Lauzon tow WSOF's line?
     
  8. Sigmafight

    Sigmafight Banned Banned

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    First off people like Palhares should not be allowed to compete in any sport, ever.

    Secondly, Palhares deserves to be beaten to within an inch of his life.

    And when he recovers, he deserves to have it happen to him again.

    He's just a plain psychopath, with no reguard of anyone other than himself, and considering the frequency of his violations, there is no talking him out of it, or him making mistakes, etc.
    Hence, the guy needs to be both mentally and physically broken, so as to hopefully make him no longer pose a threat to anyone, aside from him not being allowed to compete ever again.
     
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    bonanza comer Blue Belt

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    good video. It doesn't seem too long when broken down to .75+ seconds but im sure it seems a lot longer in real time when Paul Harris is cranking.
     
  10. IngaVovchanchyn

    IngaVovchanchyn Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    Interesting video.

    A big part, though not all, of the difference between Lauzon's reaction time and Palhares is that once his opponent is tapping Lauzon is waiting for the ref and ready to let go.

    Another key point is that Lauzon correctly treats a second like a very long time in the context of reaction times in sports. I think he called 1.4 seconds an eternity. Palhares fans saying a full second is a quick or immediate release is absurd.
     
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    snw10mm Sherdog Dermatologist on-call Platinum Member

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    I'm impressed that a fighter used video and a stopwatch to quantify something that many of us were pretty sure we were seeing. Thanks Joe L.
     
  12. Red Triangle

    Red Triangle Silver Belt Professional Fighter

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    Good riddance Paul Harris! This is another video that just proves the point.
     
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    Not trying to make excuses for Paul Harris, as I think he is a bit of a tool. However, I read that Maurillo Bustamante is who awarded him his black belt, and with Busta's history with the Lindland tap then denial there of, the academy was instructed to hold the submission after the tap and only release when the ref stops the fight. This then became the gym's mentality. I don't agree with him holding the subs as long as he does after the ref stops the fight, but it can at least give a bit of insight into why he holds as long as he does.
     
  14. ill0giKaL

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    Awesome video from J Lau, I agree with all the points he makes... Didn't learn anything new but it is telling for someone who doesn't already know.
     
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    joe is point on here
     
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    Palhares just wont learn.
     
  17. Sdeev

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    Aside from the time he holds the subs for, he also cranks his submissions needlessly without giving his opponent the opportunity to tap before a serious injury incurs.

    Almost all the fighters do without that needlessly cranking and there is no complaining. He's an outlier.
     
  18. KhabibTheBeagle

    KhabibTheBeagle Darren's Nutrisionist

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    Palhares is extremely talented at Jiu-Jitsu, and it is rare to see a fighter with such skill when it comes to leg-locks that few can stop him. That's why it really sucks that he has the problems he has. If he could have just let go when he was supposed to instead of trying to end his opponents' careers, he would have a ton more respect, and he'd still be in the UFC.
    He needs help, above all else. His traumatic upbringing definitely appears to have something to do with why he refuses to let go of his screaming opponent, and I hope he gets the treatment he needs.
     
  19. skobydog

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    Lauzon seems like a pretty intelligent guy just from listening to him. He also seems like an intelligent fighter unlike Palhares.
     
  20. IngaVovchanchyn

    IngaVovchanchyn Titanium Belt Platinum Member

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    Bustamante claims he was always having trouble getting Palhares to let go of subs even in training and it became a very big issue. The two were at odds abut it. You can't blame Bustamante for whatever ails Palhares.
     

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