Lateral Drop (Video)

that's friggin sweet... i gotta get a crash mat and practice that
 
It's a butterfly hook sweep on your feet.
 
Zankou said:
It's a butterfly hook sweep on your feet.
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nope, that would be sumi gaeshi in the lateral drop (or yoko otoshi) there is no hook, the leg stays extenderd on the outside and you fall to that side.
Btw the how to video looks more like a suplex (ura nage).
 
I know there's no hook, but the sweep is exactly the same as a good butterfly hook sweep ...

Done right, a hook sweep doesn't even need the hook to work. It's done just like a lateral drop, with the upper body and hips setting everything up. Sumi gaeshi goes to the back, but a good hook sweep goes to the side.

IMHO if you think of the hook sweep less as a sumi gaeshi type maneuver and more as a lateral drop, it greatly improves how you do it.
 
i hear what you are saying regarding the direction of the throw. but I would note that many sumi gaeshis from standing are also performed side-on. In my head a big component of the lateral drop is the leg extended on the outside which essentially trips the opponent like in sesae. Btw I believe JJ Machado shows a lateral drop sweep against an opponent standing in your guard in his book "Black Belt Techniques."
 
I love the lat drop, as a set-up for it, I like to switch my feet, step the leg thats on the overhook side all the way through and elevate the far leg of the opponent and kinda of I guess "assbackwards lat drop". What I have found is that most people will counter it by stepping in, thus giving you a normal lat drop, if you havent already landed the opposite side Lat. It does take an enormous amount of hip turn though.
 
Its one throw that I really, really want to get good at. But it looks like it requires a lot of practice and of course a good crash mat.

I'm hoping I'll eventually learn it when I start judo next week. The head instructor is a 4th dan in judo and was also a state greco-roman champ.
 
Shaldag said:
i hear what you are saying regarding the direction of the throw. but I would note that many sumi gaeshis from standing are also performed side-on. In my head a big component of the lateral drop is the leg extended on the outside which essentially trips the opponent like in sesae. Btw I believe JJ Machado shows a lateral drop sweep against an opponent standing in your guard in his book "Black Belt Techniques."
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Yeah, I just like describing it as a lat drop because the biggest problem people have with the sweep is they don't use their upper body and twist. Instead they fall on their back and try to throw the guy up with the hooks. I like to point out that you don't even need the hooks at all, the basic motion is a lateral drop, and the hooks just help with that. But you are certainly right that they're not entirely the same.

Btw, I lost in the Mundials to this guy, who is disgustingly good at lateral drops. I saw him doing pummelling drills before our match, and decided to immediately pull guard. Which was smart. The guy after me wasn't so lucky (or wise), and got hit with two huge lateral drops ... one shown in this video, 21 seconds in, and an interesting sumi-gaeshi like throw at about 1 minute, me losing at 1:45, and then another lateral drop at 2:17.

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my coach calls it a lateral toss as opposed to lateral drop
its great wen used as a counter due to foward pressure on a shoot
 
that is a nice throw I will have to attempt when my knee is 100%

~Foz
 
its a high end throw so you gotta make sure your training partner keeps his arm in so he doesn't land on it.

Good throw, my friend and I practice this quite a bit. The way we do it though is once you execute it is to move directly into mount (For MMA of course)
 
that thread on wizzers had some sweet wrestling and lateral drops like this one. thanks for the vid. i used to be much better at this.
 
judofarmerbob said:
isn't that obi tori ashi dori?
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As far as I know, its officially considered to be a variant of obi-tori-gaeshi, though its not called that very often (generally just called a Khabarelli). I've never heard the term obi tori ashi dori, but that might just be my own ignorance, or it might be a local term that isn't standardized.
 
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