Last Emperor - 14 of 36 wins vs fighters ranked top-15 worldwide at the time

[gunsblazingmode]

According to website fightmatrix.com (generated historical rankings feature), Fedor Emelianenko has 14 of his 36 career wins over fighters, who were ranked in top-15 worldwide at the time: 12 of 14 this wins were against top 10 fighters and 4 of 12 wins against top 5.

1. Ricardo Arona (#13)

2. Renato Sobral (#8)

3. Semmy Schilt (#7)

4. Heath Herring (#9)

5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (#1)

6. Garry Goodridge (#11)

7. Mark Coleman (#9)

8. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (#2)

9. Mirko Filipovich (#4)

10. Mark Coleman (#4)

11. Mark Hunt (#7)

12. Tim Sylvia (#8)

13. Andrei Arlovski (#6)

14. Brett Rogers (#8)

 

[TheGZA]

 

[LHWBelt]

Looks about right. What's the point?

 

[Mixfight]

The GOAT of mixfight.

 

[GrAtI]

GOAT

 

[Milgrim]

But ... but ... can crusher ...

Don't confuse the haters with facts.

 

[newcastleman]

I thought Fujita was top 15 around the time they fought. Also, Fedor has 2 wins over Nog.

 

[gunsblazingmode]

I thought Fujita was top 15 around the time they fought. Also, Fedor has 2 wins over Nog.

Fujita at the time he fought Fedor was in top-30 ranked worldwide according to fightmatrix website.

Looks about right. What's the point?

Not long ago i saw a thread about Spider's 18 wins over top-15 ranked worldwide fighters,so i decided to start similar admiration topic about another MMA GOAT and on the eve of upcoming fight against Meathead.

 

[San Toki]

GOAT. ib4 haterz

 

[no fat chicks]

Fedor #1. It's not just his wins but how he fought.

 

[gunsblazingmode]

Fedor #1. It's not just his wins but how he fought.

Agreed,by the way some fighters he fought ,who werent in top-15 ranked worldwide - still were tough oponents, heavyweight is dangerous weight class. Brock Lesnar for example had almost no experience in MMA and wasnt ranked, but still defeated some of the best heavyweights in the UFC, sizes does matter.

 

[sonhow]

 

[DayV]

Don't use Fightmatrix historical generated rankings, they're generated by software 15 years later and do no represent real rankings and place of fighters in MMA world at that time.

Find instead archived original rankings from that time, search forums and use web archive sites:


Fedor's Record vs Ranked Opponents:


WIN - Brett Rogers - Nov / 7 / 2009 -- Strikeforce / M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Rogers
7 hw - 2009 - Nov 1 - Fight Matrix-Published
6 hw - 2009 - Oct 31 - Sherdog
8 hw - 2009 - Oct 27 - MMA Weekly
6 hw - 2009 - Oct 13 (16) - Independent World MMA Rankings

WIN - Andrei Arlovski - Jan / 24 / 2009 -- Affliction - Day of Reckoning
19' P4P - 2008 - Dec 31 - YAHOO
3 hw - 2009 - JAN (4?) - MMA Fighting
2 hw - 2009 - Jan 11 - Bloody Elbow-Meta
2 hw - 2009 - Jan 7 - Sherdog
2 hw - 2009 - Jan 6 - Sports Illustrated/Josh Gross

WIN - Tim Sylvia - Jul / 19 / 2008 -- Affliction - Banned
4 hw - 2008 - Jul 9 - Sherdog
5 hw - 2008 - Jul 8 - MMA Weekly
5 hw - 2008 - Jun 30 - MMA Fighting
5 hw - 2008 - Jun 24 - Bloody Elbow-Meta

WIN - Matt Lindland - Apr / 14 / 2007 -- Bodog Fight - Clash of the Nations
8 P4P - 2007 - Mar 30 - MMA on Tap
1 mw - 2007 - Apr 10 - MMA Weekly
3 mw - 2007 - Mar 7 - MMA News
2 mw - 2007 - JAN (17) - Bloody Knux
1 mw - 2006 - Nov 30 - MMA Fighting

WIN - Mark Hunt - Dec / 31 / 2006 -- Pride FC - Shockwave 2006
9 hw - 2006 - Dec 19 - MMA Weekly
7 hw - 2006 - Nov 30 - MMA Fighting
9 hw - 2006 - Nov 29 - MMA News
5 hw - 2006 - NOV - Associated Fight Press-Fightsport

WIN - Mirko Filipovic - Aug / 28 / 2005 -- Pride FC - Final Conflict 2005
2 hw - 2005 - Aug 12 - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
3 hw - 2005 - JUN - Full Contact Fighter
3 hw - 2005 - May (12) - Bloody Knux
3 hw - 2005 - May 4 - ADCC MMA Top Ten

WIN - Tsuyoshi Kosaka - Apr / 3 / 2005 -- Pride - Bushido 6
17' hw - 2005 - Mar 8 - MMA Fighting


WIN - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - Dec / 31 / 2004 -- Pride - Shockwave 2004
2 hw - 2004 - Dec 26 - The MMA Collective-MMARanks
1 hw - 2004 - Dec 20 - ADCC MMA Top Ten
2 hw - 2004 - NOV - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
2 hw - 2004 - Nov 14 - MMA Fighting

WIN - Naoya Ogawa - Aug / 15 / 2004 -- Pride FC - Final Conflict 2004
15 hw - 2004 - Jul 5 - MMA Fighting

WIN - Kevin Randleman - Jun / 20 / 2004 -- Pride FC - Critical Countdown 2004
10 lhw - 2004 - May 20 - ADCC MMA Top Ten
8 lhw - 2004 - MAY - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
9 lhw - 2004 - Apr 12 - Stephen Quadros

WIN - Mark Coleman - Apr / 25 / 2004 -- Pride FC - Total Elimination 2004
8 hw - 2004 - APR^ - Max Fighting

WIN - Kazuyuki Fujita - Jun / 8 / 2003 -- Pride 26 - Bad to the Bone
10 hw - 2003 - May 4 - MMA News

WIN - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira - Mar / 16 / 2003 -- Pride 25 - Body Blow
1 hw - 2003 - Mar 4 - MMA News
1 hw - 2003 - MAR^ - Associated Fight Press-Fightsport
1 hw - 2003 - Feb 15 - MMA Media Top 10
1 hw - 2003 - Jan 31 - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll

WIN - Heath Herring - Nov / 24 / 2002 -- Pride 23 - Championship Chaos 2
4 hw - 2002 - Nov 1 - MMA Media Top 10
4 hw - 2002 - OCT - Associated Fight Press-Fightsport
3 hw - 2002 - Sep 4 - Stephen Quadros
7 hw - 2002 - FEB - MMA Weekly-Fan Vote

WIN - Semmy Schilt - Jun / 23 / 2002 -- Pride 21 - Demolition
10 hw - 2002 - Jun 11 - MMA Media Top 10
9 hw - 2002 - Jan 12 - Stephen Quadros

WIN - Renato Sobral - Aug / 11 / 2001 -- Rings - 10th
9 hw - 2001 - JAN - MMA Writers Top Ten (^2-0 vs TK & Tamura)

 

[WallyBear]

Never knew that Schilt was considered a Top10 fighter.

 

[MMAGamblero]

According to website fightmatrix.com (generated historical rankings feature), Fedor Emelianenko has 14 of his 36 career wins over fighters, who were ranked in top-15 worldwide at the time: 12 of 14 this wins were against top 10 fighters and 4 of 12 wins against top 5.

1. Ricardo Arona (#13)

2. Renato Sobral (#8)

3. Semmy Schilt (#7)

4. Heath Herring (#9)

5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (#1)

6. Garry Goodridge (#11)

7. Mark Coleman (#9)

8. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (#2)

9. Mirko Filipovich (#4)

10. Mark Coleman (#4)

11. Mark Hunt (#7)

12. Tim Sylvia (#8)

13. Andrei Arlovski (#6)

14. Brett Rogers (#8)

GSP has 17 top 5 wins. Let that soak in!

 

[InfinityLens]

Don't use Fightmatrix historical generated rankings, they're generated by software 15 years later and do no represent real rankings and place of fighters in MMA world at that time.

That makes them more credible, not less. We can look back with all of the data available and see where everybody really stood. Not only that but it can be done with a powerful computer that can crunch more calculations than a human brain.

 

[DayV]

That makes them more credible, not less. We can look back with all of the data available and see where everybody really stood. Not only that but it can be done with a powerful computer that can crunch more calculations than a human brain.

They are nonsense and not accurate.

For example:

01/01/2001

1

Semmy Schilt 18-9-0

2

Mark Coleman 11-4-0

3

Keiichiro Yamamiya 23-13-5



Of course, nobody in reality considered Schilt to be no. 1 and Yamamiya to be no. 3 at that time. Totall nonsense. It doesn't matter what will some computer calculate 15 years later with some formulas, those are not real opinions of MMA community and media about rankings and placement of fighters in ceratin time.

Only important thing are original data which represent opinions of MMA public at certain time.

 

[samoajoe]

Weakest weight class in MMA history. Names like Rogers,Goodridge,Semmuy etc... are laughable when trying to talk someone up as the GOAT.

Even Hunt in 2006 and Coleman at the time is pushing it all of which I watched live so dont give me the new fan bullshit, Coleman was already a time machine at that point and Hunt had a huge ground game weakness and got subbed easily by Josh the fight before. Tim was also on the tail end of being a top fighter with his only win in w years being a 2 - 1 win over Vera who he had to dry hump with his 40lbs weight advantage after Vera broke his hand.

Cro Cop, Nog and AA were all great wins but most of the other ones are super easy to pick apart and instead of highlighting someone as the GOAT serve more as a way to prove how crappy the HW class has alwayd been.

 

[Mixfight]

Weakest weight class in MMA history. Names like Rogers,Goodridge,Semmuy etc... are laughable when trying to talk someone up as the GOAT.

Even Hunt in 2006 and Coleman at the time is pushing it all of which I watched live so dont give me the new fan bullshit, Coleman was already a time machine at that point and Hunt had a huge ground game weakness and got subbed easily by Josh the fight before. Tim was also on the tail end of being a top fighter with his only win in w years being a 2 - 1 win over Vera who he had to dry hump with his 40lbs weight advantage after Vera broke his hand.

Cro Cop, Nog and AA were all great wins but most of the other ones are super easy to pick apart and instead of highlighting someone as the GOAT serve more as a way to prove how crappy the HW class has alwayd been.

Shut your bitch ass up.

 

[InfinityLens]

They are nonsense and not accurate.

For example:

01/01/2001

1

Semmy Schilt 18-9-0

2

Mark Coleman 11-4-0

3

Keiichiro Yamamiya 23-13-5



Of course, nobody in reality considered Schilt to be no. 1 and Yamamiya to be no. 3 at that time. Totall nonsense. It doesn't matter what will some computer calculate 15 years later with some formulas, those are not real opinions of MMA community and media about rankings and placement of fighters in ceratin time.

Only important thing are original data which represent opinions of MMA public at certain time.

I don't put much stock in mma media ranking's, they have to play nice with certain companies or risk things like press credentials.

The general MMA community of the time we have limited records of.