Kyokushin practitioner doesn't even bother taking it easy after being challenged by street fighter

Very nice finish. I thought he was rushing in to throw a few punches at first.
 
WHAT DOES HE EXPECT HAPPENS when he throws the deadliest kick on the street?
 
Looks brutal, defo a broken nose, craniofacial fractures also possible.
 
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Looks semi-organized and he's concerned at the end.... So maybe don't fight on that surface.
 
Guy in white is a bully. He knew the twink was no match and still went all out.
 
Guy in white is a bully. He knew the twink was no match and still went all out.
C'mon. We don't know the context surrounding this.

That guy could be the Charlie Zelenoff of Thailand/India/Myanmar/Laos wherever the hell this is. Maybe he called Karate bullshit because of the reputation and culture surrounding Muay Thai down there, and those guys were like, "Look, that's a respectable art, but what I do isn't bullshit. Try me and find out."

So he found out.

Why is it a practitioner's responsibility to take it easy on challengers or shit-talkers? If we organize a spar, and it's not intended to be instructional, friendly match, I don't know about you, but I'm not going easy.
 
C'mon. We don't know the context surrounding this.

That guy could be the Charlie Zelenoff of Thailand/India/Myanmar/Laos wherever the hell this is. Maybe he called Karate bullshit because of the reputation and culture surrounding Muay Thai down there, and those guys were like, "Look, that's a respectable art, but what I do isn't bullshit. Try me and find out."

So he found out.

Why is it a practitioner's responsibility to take it easy on challengers or shit-talkers? If we organize a spar, and it's not intended to be instructional, friendly match, I don't know about you, but I'm not going easy.

Guy looked like he had no training at all. It was obvious in the first 20 seconds that he was no threat to anyone but himself. It didn't even look like a real fight at first. Chozen put everything he had into that headkick and only showed concern after almost killing him. Unless there's more to the story and the guy really deserved it is one thing. But to me it looked more like maybe the shirtless guy was dumb/naive enough to challenge him and the other guy willingly accepted because he was eager to show off what he could do against a weak opponent.

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C'mon. We don't know the context surrounding this.
That's fair.

Bro had his hands below the belt, it looked like ref and everyone else was yelling at him to put his hands up. He had never thrown a punch before and had no guard. But he had that one jump kick.

So it was the Spacetime of dudes from that location.
 
The most irritating transgression from the Karateka, to me, was that he engaged this challenger on a hard surface. That's inexcusably irresponsible whatever the context.
 
The most irritating transgression from the Karateka, to me, was that he engaged this challenger on a hard surface. That's inexcusably irresponsible whatever the context.

The whole thing was irresponsible and mean spirited.

If you've trained enough to kick the shit out of someone who clearly hasn't ever trained, you should never fight that person.

The other dude not only looked untrained but he looked timid and like he was under the impression this was a friendly sort of tbing. He's laughing, bouncing around and putting his hands up to say something like stop or slow down.

Karate guy sees this all - we're on concrete, my "opponent" (looks more like friend from their initial body language and his response after fucking leveling him) is untrained, not physically fit, and is taking it easy.

The karate guy is an absolute asshole. There's no other way to spin it. He saw the opportunity to try and look like a cool tough guy at the expense of this guy's brain cells and he aggressively seized that chance, just to impress the immature boys watching - and, obviously impress you too.
 
The whole thing was irresponsible and mean spirited.

If you've trained enough to kick the shit out of someone who clearly hasn't ever trained, you should never fight that person.

The other dude not only looked untrained but he looked timid and like he was under the impression this was a friendly sort of tbing. He's laughing, bouncing around and putting his hands up to say something like stop or slow down.

Karate guy sees this all - we're on concrete, my "opponent" (looks more like friend from their initial body language and his response after fucking leveling him) is untrained, not physically fit, and is taking it easy.

The karate guy is an absolute asshole. There's no other way to spin it. He saw the opportunity to try and look like a cool tough guy at the expense of this guy's brain cells and he aggressively seized that chance, just to impress the immature boys watching - and, obviously impress you too.
Again, you're presuming to know too much. You're making inferences based on body language and demeanor that aren't deductively reasoned.

I don't even know what language is being spoken. I have offered one of countless explanations that could justify the karateka going as hard as he did. The only thing of which I'm highly confident I'm witnessing is two men willfully engaging in combat. If you have evidence of an unsigned contract, "Hey, you're clearly the better fighter, so you only fight 30%", then show it. Otherwise, I don't agree it's reasonable that that should be an expectation of the dominant man in voluntary combat, nor am I prepared to so harshly judge someone because some may find the reality of the outcome upsetting.
 
Again, you're presuming to know too much. You're making inferences based on body language and demeanor that aren't deductively reasoned.

... dude. Obviously. We are all doing that. Does this need mentioning? Did you not use the exact same approach in your post?
I don't even know what language is being spoken. I have offered one of countless explanations that could justify the karateka going as hard as he did. The only thing of which I'm highly confident I'm witnessing is two men willfully engaging in combat. If you have evidence of an unsigned contract, "Hey, you're clearly the better fighter, so you only fight 30%", then show it. Otherwise, I don't agree it's reasonable that that should be an expectation of the dominant man in voluntary combat, nor am I prepared to so harshly judge someone because some may find the reality of the outcome upsetting.

This is a bunch of bullshit. Of course we can infer that this isnt fucking "combat" - what an absurd take. There are not countless explanations. I can count them - 1, he's a prick and went over and beyond what is a reasonable level of violence in what seems very clearly to be something of a less serious introductory spar. This is evidenced by the body language and the karate assholes response after possibly shattering bones in the other guys face.

Or 2. This was "combat" as you baselessly claim, and the victim here was displaying this kind of body language for no reason, and suddenly after rhe "combat" was over the karate guy instantaneously decided this wasn't combat anymore and he should be concerned with the possible life changing damage he just inflicted.

I dont know why you're defending such an impossible position here. Refusing to judge the clear context in the video doesn't make you wise, mate.

I cannot definitively prove the guys had some sort of agreement that this wasn't mortal combat, but the circumstances definitely lend credence to that idea. The alternative idea, that this level of aggression and damage to the other guy is justified because they are in fact engaging in no holds barred mutual combat, is entirely out of line with qhat we can see in the video. If that were the case, the guy isn't taking it seriously. Even in this instance, a black belt Karateka has the responsibility not to fuck this dude up the way he did.

This isnt judging someone only because of the outcome is unfortunate. Its the process to the outcome- the behavior and the decision making process that results in the outcome, as well as the clearly concerned behavior after the outcome. You know this.
 
... dude. Obviously. We are all doing that. Does this need mentioning? Did you not use the exact same approach in your post?
I did not. Because I did not assert anything. I only posited a possibility. Pay attention.

"We don't know the context surrounding this." "The guy could be..." "Maybe he called Karate bullshit..."
This is a bunch of bullshit. Of course we can infer that this isnt fucking "combat" - what an absurd take. There are not countless explanations. I can count them - 1, he's a prick and went over and beyond what is a reasonable level of violence in what seems very clearly to be something of a less serious introductory spar. This is evidenced by the body language and the karate assholes response after possibly shattering bones in the other guys face.

Or 2. This was "combat" as you baselessly claim, and the victim here was displaying this kind of body language for no reason, and suddenly after rhe "combat" was over the karate guy instantaneously decided this wasn't combat anymore and he should be concerned with the possible life changing damage he just inflicted.

I dont know why you're defending such an impossible position here. Refusing to judge the clear context in the video doesn't make you wise, mate.

I cannot definitively prove the guys had some sort of agreement that this wasn't mortal combat, but the circumstances definitely lend credence to that idea. The alternative idea, that this level of aggression and damage to the other guy is justified because they are in fact engaging in no holds barred mutual combat, is entirely out of line with qhat we can see in the video. If that were the case, the guy isn't taking it seriously. Even in this instance, a black belt Karateka has the responsibility not to fuck this dude up the way he did.

This isnt judging someone only because of the outcome is unfortunate. Its the process to the outcome- the behavior and the decision making process that results in the outcome, as well as the clearly concerned behavior after the outcome. You know this.
You're doing it again. You don't read carefully, and you don't view thoughtfully. Everything is a certainty with you. You're one of those people whose assumptions are transformed by his emotions into prejudices.
 
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