Kyokushin clinch? Muay Thai clinch?

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Hi. New Here.

I didn't need to watch any clips to know that Thai boxers are masters at using their elbows and knees. However, when I read up on Kyokushin Karate and watched some clips of Kyokushin fights and Andy Hug HL reels, I also saw that KK fighters are also very good at using their elbows and knees. I've seen many Andy Hug KOs via knee strike. I've seen many Kyokushin KOs by knee strike as well.

1. Which MA has the better elbow/knee techniques, Muay Thai or Kyokushin? Are they both equal? What are your opinions? How would you compare and contrast the two?

2. I am looking to integrate either MT or KK into my already existing standup game consisting of Taekwondo. How beneficial would it be to add KK to TKD and why?

Thanks a lot.
 
Evil Eye Gouger said:
My fave Kyokushin highlight is Daisukey's one of Shokei Matsui's 100 man Kumite.

Look for it, it will make you want to take up Kyokushin instantly, it is THAT good.
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yeah i have seen it.
KK is the own.

I do karate anyway :)
 
ROK said:
Hi. New Here.

I didn't need to watch any clips to know that Thai boxers are masters at using their elbows and knees. However, when I read up on Kyokushin Karate and watched some clips of Kyokushin fights and Andy Hug HL reels, I also saw that KK fighters are also very good at using their elbows and knees. I've seen many Andy Hug KOs via knee strike. I've seen many Kyokushin KOs by knee strike as well.

1. Which MA has the better elbow/knee techniques, Muay Thai or Kyokushin? Are they both equal? What are your opinions? How would you compare and contrast the two?

2. I am looking to integrate either MT or KK into my already existing standup game consisting of Taekwondo. How beneficial would it be to add KK to TKD and why?

Thanks a lot.
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you should take up boxing and add some kiks, maybe a bo staff and a death star once ur that good
 
Marc936 said:
you should take up boxing and add some kiks, maybe a bo staff and a death star once ur that good
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Are you saying Muay Thai is not good for full contact fighting and would get owned by boxing? Is that what you're saying?

ROTFL, you don't know anything!
 
Evil Eye Gouger said:
Are you saying Muay Thai is not good for full contact fighting and would get owned by boxing? Is that what you're saying?

ROTFL, you don't know anything!
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im saying a boxer with a bo staff and a death star will kill people in muay thai, so yes that is exactly what im saying

i pity you, so ignorant and stupid
 
Do you people really have nothing to do? I resigned up to make a new start. Go take your shit elsewhere. I haven't done anythign wrong. Stop botherin gme.
 
ROK said:
Do you people really have nothing to do? I resigned up to make a new start. Go take your shit elsewhere. I haven't done anythign wrong. Stop botherin gme.
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If you really want to look into other arts, Kyokushin will be much closer to TKD, the training will be more similar and your skills will probably transfer more easily.

Muay Thai is a rather different beast.

On the other hand, Kyokushin has no face punching, elbows to the face, and similar.
 
or you can do kickboxing like you wanted to change tkd to before
 
Muay thais clinch are the stuff. Though I havent seen KK clinch I would still place my bet on MT.
I could see KK in MMA if they punched to the face. That doesnt make sense that they can kick in the face but not punch.

O well

Muerto I could tell it was you from the way you worded stuff and the format of the question, but people need to stop giving you crap. STOP BEING BIG BABYS
 
ACR4V3N said:
I could see KK in MMA if they punched to the face. That doesnt make sense that they can kick in the face but not punch.
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It does make a lot of sense if you consider that they fight bareknuckle. First contact, and there's blood all over the place. Imagine doing a 100-man kumite like that.

Early on, they had to make a decision: Use gloves like boxing, or go without punches to the face.

Mas Oyama's concept of kumite was that no extra equipment should be used, so the face punches were ditched, so at least other techniques would remain true to original Karate.
 
Is Kyokushin still all bareknuckle full contact?

Do some dojos not let their students do full contact? or at least up until a certain belt? What rank do you have to be to do full contact kyokushin sparring? I don't wait like a year just to be able to spar... hm...
 
Oh yeah and how is a KK roundhouse differnt from a WTF TKD roundhouse?
 
Evil Eye Gouger said:
It's pretty much the same as the old-school TKD chamber roundhouse.
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Really? So then I guess the power difference between today's TKD roundhouse and the KK roundhouse is negligible ...
 
ROK said:
Is Kyokushin still all bareknuckle full contact?

Do some dojos not let their students do full contact? or at least up until a certain belt? What rank do you have to be to do full contact kyokushin sparring? I don't wait like a year just to be able to spar... hm...
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Any comments on this?
 
Kyokushin sparring IS bareknuckle, and it is hard sparring. In sparring, usually not even Thaiboxers go 100% out trying to kill each other. Kyokushin tournaments are full contact.

I don't know what Kyokushin training is like, and who's allowed to spar, and things like that.
 
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