Kung Fu is next in the UFC

So we have seen a lot of Karate and Tae Kwon Do techniques being implemented in MMA recently. I believe Kung Fu will be the next art where people will use such close quarter techniques as the inch punch, shoulder strike, and elbow blocks.

It wasn't that long ago when traditional martial arts were considered a joke, but now they're gaining respect amongst the fighting community.

the one inch punch is not a technique of Kung Fu, nor is it a technique at all, it was clearly used by Bruce Lee as a demonstration of power.

how about learning about Kung Fu before talking about it.
 
There is plenty of kung fu already in MMA. Kung fu teaches punches, kicks, takedowns and the sport already has plenty of that.
 
Kung Fu is shitty.

Your post is shitty. There are hundreds of styles of chinese martial arts a.k.a kung fu. Some of those guys definitely know how to fight and many of them are identical to their japanese counter parts such as Judo and jujitsu. A lot of chinese people just aren't really into mma and that's the reality of it. You can take almost any style and make it work if you train realistically and are a good fighter.
 
how about learning about Kung Fu before talking about it.

I feel like you probably know that Sherdoggers don't do that. They bitch and complain about something until there's a shift, then they pretend they never hated it.

The fact that MMA fans can't wrap their head around the usefulness of an reserve elbow wrap in the clinch or a front foot sweep.... only goes to show they put little thought into what they proclaim to follow regularly.
 
the one inch punch is not a technique practiced for fighting, Bruce lee only used it to demonstrate how much power he can deliver from only one inch swing.

it is not used in combat at all.



Ah, how easily you are deceived young grasshopper.
 
That ridiculous Kung fu crap doesn't work. TMA's in general are a joke... Let's drunken monkey fight! Check out my ferocious bear claw technique! LOL. Gimme a break.
 
Your post is shitty. There are hundreds of styles of chinese martial arts a.k.a kung fu. Some of those guys definitely know how to fight and many of them are identical to their japanese counter parts such as Judo and jujitsu. A lot of chinese people just aren't really into mma and that's the reality of it. You can take almost any style and make it work if you train realistically and are a good fighter.

Stfu with that nonsense. YouTube mma vs Kung fu and show us how Mr. Kung fu Man wins. Early UFC's exposed that garbage already. You're living in the stone ages, Uncle Rico.
 
That ridiculous Kung fu crap doesn't work. TMA's in general are a joke... Let's drunken monkey fight! Check out my ferocious bear claw technique! LOL. Gimme a break.

You're not a bright fella, are ya?
 
That ridiculous Kung fu crap doesn't work. TMA's in general are a joke... Let's drunken monkey fight! Check out my ferocious bear claw technique! LOL. Gimme a break.

"TMAs are a joke....." I'm sorry, dipshit, please elaborate for us.. Where exactly do you believe all fighting styles originate from? Boxing?

Braindead internet poser.
 
"TMAs are a joke....." I'm sorry, dipshit, please elaborate for us.. Where exactly do you believe all fighting styles originate from? Boxing?

Braindead internet poser.

Not to mix up our cultures here, but what he did was essentially "Sushi is terrible because Uni and Konowata are terrible". Par for the Sherdog course.
 
I feel like you probably know that Sherdoggers don't do that. They bitch and complain about something until there's a shift, then they pretend they never hated it.

The fact that MMA fans can't wrap their head around the usefulness of an reserve elbow wrap in the clinch or a front foot sweep.... only goes to show they put little thought into what they proclaim to follow regularly.

We're going to agree on this one.

TMA training methods are typically more of what makes them weak than the techniques themselves.

Look at the four big arts of MMA - boxing, wrestling, muay thai, bjj and notice that they all involve contact sparring and a big emphasis on fitness.

You can't write off TMA's as though they won't work with some cross training and MMA style conditioning. You'd think that Machida and other TMA based fighters like Pettis would have driven this stigma out by now.

Wasn't GSP a karate student before all else?
 
Pack your bags MMA kiddos, only a matter of time before Kiai masters are ruling the sport, using your chi against you.

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We're going to agree on this one.

TMA training methods are typically more of what makes them weak than the techniques themselves.

Look at the four big arts of MMA - boxing, wrestling, muay thai, bjj and notice that they all involve contact sparring and a big emphasis on fitness.

You can't write off TMA's as though they won't work with some cross training and MMA style conditioning. You'd think that Machida and other TMA based fighters like Pettis would have driven this stigma out by now.

Wasn't GSP a karate student before all else?


GSP, Hardy, Diaz, and quite a few others have done at least one TMA. The hard part is finding actual dojos and avoiding McDojos.

After studying QuinNa I can say the axioms of TMs CAN be useful if you know how to create applicable crossover (balanced entrances, elbow/shoulder wraps, and so on). You just have to be smart enough to know "Oh hey, in a fight I probably can't do shit with these finger and wrist locks, because the other guy is a trained athlete and I can't spend 20 years going over this one wrist lock hoping it pops up in a fight".
 
Kung Fu Sanshou (Sanda) has been around for a long time. Most people watching it, without knowing what it was, would pegg it for a mix of Muay Thai, TKD and Judo.

There's good in all arts, and crap too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtlSPkID9mU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBKJA4-fZbQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpdVE7qZGOQ

It's kickboxing with throws.

http://www.sanshouuk.co.uk/history.html

In 1924, the Guomindang (Chinese National Party) established the Whampoa Military Academy in Canton province, Southern China in order to train the Party​
 
The Kung-Fu that works in a real fight and has always worked, is the one that's been pitted against Muay Thai for decades now. It's just Sanda/Sanshou, which takes only the effective strikes of Kung-Fu (while trashing all the dumb flowery forms junk), train them hard for combat sport, and producing real fighters. Then it looks just like Kickboxing, which is an invention of Karatekas who saw the similar waste of time of their kata for McDojo money.

A kicks is a kick and a punch is a punch. There's no real special kick that Kung-Fu owns, I don't think. TKD doesn't own all the spinning kicks neither. While Muay Thai just gets right down to it, w/o any of the flowery fluff. If you say Kung-Fu in a TMA sense, with all of this flowery forms, will be transitioned into MMA, then haha....no.
 
"in the world of kung fu, speed determined the winner."

they forgot to factor in weight-cutting
 
It's kickboxing with throws.

http://www.sanshouuk.co.uk/history.html

In 1924, the Guomindang (Chinese National Party) established the Whampoa Military Academy in Canton province, Southern China in order to train the Party’s leaders and create a modern military force. In January 1923 they had formed a strategic alliance with the Soviet Union. The Academy utilised Soviet methods to establish party discipline, political instruction and training of military personnel.

Between 1904 and 1905 during the war between Russia and Japan, Russian forces experienced heavy losses with the Japanese in close quarter combat. They felt something had to be done and steps were taken to develop better methods of training soldiers for close quarter combat. The project was made official under the leadership of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in 1917. The result of this project is what is today known as Sambo.

The Soviet military and the creators of Sambo felt a sport form was needed which could be safely practiced on a regular basis. This would also incorporate modern advancements in sports medicine and training methodology. All of which taught to them under the guidance of a skilled coach.

Under the tutelage of Soviet advisors, the Chinese endeavored to create a similar method of training their military forces. The program was perhaps more important to the Chinese who lacked an industrial base and access to most modern warfare technology. The Whampoa military instructors who studied the traditional martial art styles combined them with the modern training methods and created Sanshou and the decision was made to use a Kickboxing like format when practiced.​
Kickboxing was invented in Japan in the 1950s, there were no Soviets doing it in the 20s. The modern training methods just means the hard sparring that the Soviets used for their boxing. Kickboxing itself is just Kyokushin with the introduced concept of full contact competition.

The main basis for Sanda was the earlier Lei Tai fights of the late 19th century in China. It was basically prize fighting on a raised wooden platform where the objective was to throw the opponent off of it.
 
All the Kung Fu haters are people who said the same thing about Karate.

You would know the power of Kung Fu if you have witnessed Shaolin warriors take hits from metal poles to the face. No UFC fighter can knock out a guy who can take a metal bar to the face. This is one of many unique skills UFC fighters can implement.
 
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