KO Judo toss on Colton

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That was one hell of a throw! He landed on his head and that was that.
Anyone have a gif?
 
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Wow, that could have been really, really bad.
Have them recorded and haven't watched them yet.
 
There is another thread in here about with Chiesa in the title. Post Fight interview he credited it as Judo counter to an aggressive pressing wrestler.

I don't think they train straight Judo at his gym, but this was obviously gameplan bed as a counter to Colton's fighting style.

On cement, that equals life changing......
 
Sick throw. That face plant looks like a neck smasher. Wow.

"On cement, that equals life changing......"
Isn't that why in old judo, you get the toss, you get the win. Finishing move.
 
The guy landed on the top of his head, so he wasn't going to get a serious injury unless he was stacked somehow. Luckily most Judo throws are designed to land you on your back in an ideal case (it was made to be a sport after all).

On the other hand it was clear the guy didn't know how to take a fall. If he did something like look up towards the ground, he'd probably have a broken neck now.

I'm not sure how Judo should be treated in MMA. At some point you would get a bad injury, though uncommon. It's clear that many fighters do not know how to fall. The guy didn't know know the most basic rule to tuck your head.
 
QingTian said:
The guy landed on the top of his head, so he wasn't going to get a serious injury unless he was stacked somehow. Luckily most Judo throws are designed to land you on your back in an ideal case (it was made to be a sport after all).

On the other hand it was clear the guy didn't know how to take a fall. If he did something like look up towards the ground, he'd probably have a broken neck now.

I'm not sure how Judo should be treated in MMA. At some point you would get a bad injury, though uncommon. It's clear that many fighters do not know how to fall. The guy didn't know know the most basic rule to tuck your head.
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Besides Judo, a lot of traditional arts still teach break falling. With folks coming up through "MMA gyms" instead, break falling will be seen less and less until a serious injury occurs. Even the few pro wrestling guys to come over to MMA are experts in break falls.
 
Some guys really love hip throws with that overhook. Never been very comfortable with it.
 
People really understimate the resiliency of the human body, too much final destination i assume.

It was a bad landing i agree.
 
If that was on streetz game over. I'm working that overhook hip toss no gi and I liking it. I have a shit shoulder and this throw works well for me.
 
QingTian said:
I'm not sure how Judo should be treated in MMA. At some point you would get a bad injury, though uncommon. It's clear that many fighters do not know how to fall. The guy didn't know know the most basic rule to tuck your head.
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So they need to learn to breakfall then. Simple.
 
We work that same thing alllll the time. I know jack shit about wrestling/judo but throw people with that pretty regularly in just the way Chisea said he did... when people over-commit with pressure, chasing a take down that isn't there because the underhook or over the back grip has them held up. In that match that Ryan took the guy's back and didn't get hooks that everyone raged over, he does the same exact thing, he just started from bottom side control instead of the feet.

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QingTian said:
On the other hand it was clear the guy didn't know how to take a fall. If he did something like look up towards the ground, he'd probably have a broken neck now.
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Maybe he just didn't want to take a fall. Tucking your head and rolling is all good, but you're guaranteed to end on the bottom, so I can understand why resisting/posting might seem like a good idea even though it wasn't in this case
 
sha said:
Maybe he just didn't want to take a fall. Tucking your head and rolling is all good, but you're guaranteed to end on the bottom, so I can understand why resisting/posting might seem like a good idea even though it wasn't in this case
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Auspex said:
Some guys really love hip throws with that overhook. Never been very comfortable with it.
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I'm the same way, I just feel so much more secure with an underhook, or the belt (when wearing a gi).

As for the harai-goshi, twas a thing of beauty. I love going for that or drop seoi-nage when a guy presses on me in a similar manner.
 
Funny, after visiting f12 I was convinced judo doesn't work without a gi, or even at all.
 
Bluesbreaker said:
Funny, after visiting f12 I was convinced judo doesn't work without a gi, or even at all.
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Well played sir...

My BJJ buddies don't believe me, but I always tell them I think it's easier to throw opponents in no-gi, mainly because they cant stop me from getting the grip I want.
 
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