I take it tournament rules include no punches to the face, only body punches, but head kicks are allowed...
That falling to the ground in order to deliver a head kick to the opponent appears to be potentially one of the worst moves ever invented in the whole history of martial arts. Bit like the double guard pull but at least that is only a stylistic problem, not one likely to get your head stomped in a real fight.
I take it tournament rules include no punches to the face, only body punches, but head kicks are allowed...
That falling to the ground in order to deliver a head kick to the opponent appears to be potentially one of the worst moves ever invented in the whole history of martial arts. Bit like the double guard pull but at least that is only a stylistic problem, not one likely to get your head stomped in a real fight.
Who gives a damn what would get their "head stomped in a real fight"? The IFK tournament doesn't exist to determine who has the best "real fight" prowess, but instead who is the best karateka. Funny how MMA fans need everything to cater to their overly machoistic view if what works in a "real fight."
Who gives a damn what would get their "head stomped in a real fight"? The IFK tournament doesn't exist to determine who has the best "real fight" prowess, but instead who is the best karateka. Funny how MMA fans need everything to cater to their overly machoistic view if what works in a "real fight."
I agree but I wouldn't say the best karateka but the best fighter under the ruleset - that said even though I do KK - there are things I don't like about the knockdown karate, I think they could make some improvements to it - like for example including waza-ari for sweeps or ashi barai's for example - that said I love knockdown, just not fond of the way many approach it technically.
sounds like you'd prefer knockdown under the Ashihara or Enshin rules then
I like the Ashihara/Enshin rules - although I personally am not fond of them either, at least not the way I am with normal knockdown rules - love it but think it could use some tweeking - as for the ashihara/enshin I don't like the excessive grabbing of the gi - I prefer the original knockdown karate method (i.e. no grabbing), the only thing I don't like is that sweeps aren't awarded waza-ari like they should be nor is any technique that puts off balance an opponent - technically it should be waza-ari but it isn't.
I'd like to see a slight merger though of KK rules & ashihara/enshin - i.e. minimal grabbing of gi (i.e. minimal in the sense - allowed to grab to gi when doing gedan barai for example - but no general grabbing if that makes sense), awarding of waza-ari for sweeps or techniques that put off balance (which is in the knockdown rulebook already but barely enforced), unsuccessful techniques that put you off balance or on the matt should count against you when scoring (which is not always the case) - that's about it lol - oh yeah & no rounds, just one round of say 10 minutes lol ----- I'm inventing my own dream rules lol.
Anyway I digress but that's how I feel on the subject - although I prefer normal knockdown to enshin/ashihara tbh.
But then it might make it slower, fights wouldn't be as fast paced as they are now with 2 min rounds.
10 min rounds of knockdown, you nutter
But then it might make it slower, fights wouldn't be as fast paced as they are now with 2 min rounds.
on the sweep subject, I don't see why a sweep should be counted as a waza ari if you not even allowed throws or pushing. still, some organisations allow sweeps, they just don't score it as waza ari.
One of the things I love with knockdown is that every round is the last one.
You cannot hold back and pace yourself in anticipation of the next round, because it is up to the judges if there will be one more extension round or not. Also, every round starts without points, so you cannot hold back and rely on what you did in the previous rounds to give you a win.
So every round is the final one, with no scoring baggage from the previous rounds. Each fighter has to throw everything they have into every single round.