Knockdown + follow up sub = the most decisive way of winning an mma fight?

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  1. Let's take Hughes/Almeida and Nelson/Thatch for example, the way they won, is that the most dominant form of victory in a fight?
     
  2. CJ86

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    No.
     
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    Winning for some period of time during the fight, several knockdowns and then finished with a sub.

    Demonstrate that you're the best in clinch, ground, standing etc.

    Basically Werdum/Cain 1
     
  5. Yeah that too
     
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    I think dominating for 5 rounds is the most decisive way to win
     
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    Most decisive?

    Control the fight, win most/all exchanges, don't get taken down, win via KO/TKO/Sub after 2+ rounds.

    See TJ Dillashaw vs. Renan Barao I and II
     
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    Having to have the referee pull you off your opponent before you seriously injure them is way more dominant than winning 5 rounds.
     
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    I think it's definitely the essence of MMA and combining different styles to win a fight. Most dominant? I've always felt a dominant 2 or 4 rounds followed by a last round finish would be the most doninant way of winning. That way there's no excuses about luck, being caught, etc.
     
  12. Nah you gotta be able to finish the fight at some point. And it depends on what kind of fight it is. Frankie dominated Faber for 5 rounds but...
     
  13. TheRuthlessOne

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    Could always have been a fluke

    In a fight anything can happen type stuff

    Dominating for 5 rounds leaves no doubt who the better fighter was
     
  14. I am a kickboxing fan as well but MMA isnt KB.
     
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    Most decisive way would be to win all striking exchanges never get taken down, take opponent down 5+ times very round, mount the opponent every round then in the last seconds of the fifth throw a haymaker to knock him unconscious on the feet then grab him before he hits the ground and slap on a rear naked choke to win by sub
     
  16. TheRuthlessOne

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    Here is just an example to see if I can maybe change your mind

    GSP vs Koshcheck

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    Lawler vs Koshcheck


    GSP dominated for 5 rounds and broke kos face by the end of the fight

    Lawler finished kos in round 1

    Would you say that lawler had a more decisive win over koscheck then gsp did ?
     
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    Round 1 pick them apart and dominate them on the feet

    Round 2 take them down and control them + vicious gnp

    Round 3 Finish them
     
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    Agree to disagree. I will always value an actual finish to a dominant decision.
     
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    Yes actually. Koscheck was able to fight 5 rounds with GSP but couldn't survive one round with Lawler. More decisive to me.
     
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    No, because the knockdown caused the submission in the examples mentioned. It's obviously a dominant win, but submitting someone after rattling their brains doesn't prove you're a better grappler. Hughes vs. Almeida is the perfect example.
     

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