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  1. icemanliddell Purple Belt

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    I have been watching reruns lately, and quite entertaining to see Gordon Ramsay kick arrogant owners' arses. But I find some of his advice a bit wanting. Reading culinary textbooks and working in a restaurant help a lot to clear up some misconceptions in the show.

    1. Frozen = Bad.

    Frozen vegetables are just as good as the day they are harvested. Shrimp freezes well. Sashimi is also frozen to kill of microbes before selling.

    While red meat is better off fresh, freezing it is a practical choice if you have a huge surplus of meat and cannot sell them all in a week.

    There is a smart way of freezing produce.

    2. No pictures in the menu.

    This is seen in season 1 at the pizzeria place Sebastian's. I agree with Gordon that you are not to use pictures if your establishment is fine dining. But if you run a family restaurant, or specializes an ethnic cuisine that is unfamiliar to many people, you need to show that your food is palatable, especially with kids.

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    Ok, what do you guys think?
     
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  2. Huckleberry McRib Pure Blood Platinum Member

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    From what I have seen most of the time he gives people shit for frozen stuff is when it says its fresh made on the menu.

    I like the English version better but still like almost anything he does.
     
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    UK version is much better: less formulaic, much substantial advice, more likeable owners.
     
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    Don't a lot of the restaurants close anyway in the US versions?
     
  5. elreece Black Belt

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    No to both.

    I am with Gordo on both those points.

    Frozen is never as good as fresh. EVER.

    Pictures on menus?! screams cheap fast food.
     
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    Have you ever tasted fresh vegetables?
     
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    I disagree with both things in the OP.

    Things like frozen broccoli, asparagus, onions, cauliflower, spinach, etc etc, are not as good as when they’re fresh. Frozen spinach is disgusting.

    Frozen vegetables in general don’t taste as good as fresh ones. At least IMO



    and pictures should Almost never be inside menus. That is as tacky and as cheap as it gets.



    Also the UK Version of the show is 100x better than the American version.
     
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  8. SHIB Hand Luke Shit-Coin Master Pink

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    Fook dat wee coont
     
  9. milliniar Who needs a belt?

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    Searing seals in the juices.
     
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    He often used to yell at people for putting warm food in the fridge, because it'll cause mold. I think that's been debunked recently.

    As mentioned above, check out the UK version of the show. They're a lot of fun to watch. There's a ton of full episodes on youtube.

     
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    I like pictures on the menu. Then again I'm hardly a fine dining kinda guy.
     
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    Anyone who doesn't eat frozen spinach sald is some kind of foodie poof.
     
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  13. lsa If you can read this, you are too close

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    Well yeah, they are already on the verge of death when he shows up.
    Some only a month or 2 a way from bankruptcy .
    IIRC he actually manage to save 40ish % of them which is impressive.

    And as others have said see the UK version.
    Yanks always want their "reality" yanked up 110 %.
    No matter what show Gordon does UK version is a lot better.
    Less screaming more normal guy.
     
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  14. Yoel Bromero Purple Belt

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    I love Gordan Ramsay trash tv, love it!
     
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    meh not as good as bar rescue
     
  16. jimbob27 Ken Shamrock Belt

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    I never really agree with his criticism of menus having too many items.

    I've only had negative experiences the other way round. Posh restaurants with about 5 entrees on offer, none of which sound particularly appetising.
     
  17. fingercuffs Rebelfetts future wife Platinum Member

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    Frozen anything other than peas or sweetcorn, it all turns to mush.

    If I see pics on a menu I'm getting take out, nothing more.
     
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  18. KeepingItReal Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    When you freeze vegetables, the cell walls burst because the water in the cell walls expands, this changes the flavor and texture. Your whole point about pictures doesn't make any sense, you can't tell if food is palatable by looking at a picture, you can tell if it's palatable by eating it. No matter how many pictures I look at, of things I've never eaten, I won't know what it tastes like.
     
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  19. fingercuffs Rebelfetts future wife Platinum Member

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    It's managing your stock. You have enough to provide and maintain a menu without having things like seafood which will spoil hanging around for one little grandma who wants her artichoke and crab dip.
    You can't keep everyone happy while trying to make a decent profit.
     
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    I Have serious reservations about someone who doesn't think there a difference between fresh and frozen vegetables.

    You must hate/never eat veggies, man.
     

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