Killer Instinct

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  1. KnightTemplar

    KnightTemplar Ebony Belt Platinum Member

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    What martial art is best at developing the killer instinct required for self-defence? MMA? BJJ/ Thai? Or are all the "high-percentage" arts the same?
     
  2. igordog

    igordog Black Belt

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    Muay Thai as far as sheer brutality. You have to have a killer instinct for that and BJJ as well. The killer instinct will develop as your skill increases; looking for openings and developing your timing to finish your opponent.
     
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    ns8722 White Belt

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    muay thai for sure.... but bjj?? id say wrestling requires more physical strength and aggression. bjj is more timing and technique. not that you dont need technique for wrestling as well
     
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    Shulom1*** Purple Belt

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    NOTE: when Paul says trapping range, he is speaking about clinch range. In pfs we equate them. He is also speaking specifically about the Thai clinch, he really loves that thing =D
     
  5. igordog

    igordog Black Belt

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    What I mean is that you have to have a "killer instinct" in BJJ to succeed to any extent, and also if you're going to use it in any form of combat...You have to be aware of your opponent's every movement and be ready to go in for the kill at any second.
    If you're on your back with a larger person pounding the fuck out of you, you may only have one chance to throw up an armbar or triangle, or sweep him, or whatever...If you don't have that killer instinct, you may let that opportunity pass you by and you'll just be another guy laying on the ground bleeding.
    If you have the "killer instinct" you'll be able to keep your composure at all times, sense the right time to make your move, and escape or finish your opponent.
    Ask Royce, Anderson, or Minotauro about this...
     
  6. Shulom1***

    Shulom1*** Purple Belt

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    Killer instinct is a MIND SET. It is pure emotional aggression and ferocity, which is the last thing you want on the ground. You want to be relaxed.

    Killer instinct is about explosiveness, and aggression. It's not something you can learn from any art. It's something you develop yourself through sparring.
     
  7. 00 Buck

    00 Buck Purple Belt

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    True. Enduring makes you hard.
     
  8. BWALKER

    BWALKER Purple Belt

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    What do you mean by Kill Instinct?

    Let's remember MMA is a sport now, so it is not meant to kill an opponent. MMA also doesn't train you to learn to fight more than one person. In fact, the worse thing anyone would want to do is pull Guard in a street fight unless you know it's only a one on one situation, otherwise, you are gonna get stomped by a pissed off buddy of the guy you are submitting.

    Killer Instinct could mean a lot of things. If you are meaning, when to go for the KO in the midst of the fight, then one style has no benefit over another in that regard. Like someone said before, that is a mind set. People who are natural born fighters have an innate sense of when to strike. That moment arises when tons of stimuli make things clear when to "Do It"...what ever that is.

    For instance. If we are talking about when to land a first punch. There are better times than others for doing this. When it's time, you know...somehow you set up the punch.

    If we are talking about how to confront an angry crowd to avoid a beatdown, that too takes a Killer Instinct.

    Sometimes you face more than one person, who to hit first..or should anyone be hit first....maybe it will pass over. But if it doesn't, you need to know that before they do, or they may land first punch.

    So, I could go on here, but what you mean by Killer Instinct would help me focus on the one thing you want to know.

    Edit...and I also must humbly disagree with the person who say's BJJ doesn't need a Killer Instinct. Any combat sport, or really any sport in general needs a Killer Instinct. In BJJ, you need to know when to explode for the Coup De Grace.

     
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  9. wildman1717

    wildman1717 Green Belt

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    Killer instinct is something you either have it or you don't.
     
  10. Armycombative

    Armycombative White Belt

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    Agreed killer instinct is built into the simplest of human responses of fight or flight. Ever wonder why some people can have a gun held to their head knowing damn well they are about to die and chose not to fight? That is a deep rooted instinct.

    I guess with the proper training you can gain the confidence to fight instead of flight/freeze up.

    Courage is fear that held on a little longer ~ Gen Patton
     
  11. pittelp

    pittelp Smokin Joe belt winner

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    That's a tough call; empty hands, I think almost any serious training will do.

    knife/stick fighting: Escrima/Kali.
     
  12. wildman1717

    wildman1717 Green Belt

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    Training can and will boost your confidence, but even a fighter can have a lack of killer instinct. Like I said earlier, your born with it and you have it or you don't.
     
  13. Guardian

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    A "Killer Instinct" can be learned, it's not something that's done easily if you don't already have it in you, but it can be done, heck it was taught all the time in the military back in the day and even now a days.
     
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    You aren't born with killer instinct, it must be trained through intense Rex Kwon Do study. [​IMG]
     
  15. wildman1717

    wildman1717 Green Belt

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    Hard to argue with that logic.
     
  16. lparnes

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    any martial art is disigned to kill it really comes down to the trainer and what he teaches and the student.
     
  17. CarloSpcyWeiner

    CarloSpcyWeiner Desert Eagle, .50 Platinum Member

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    Muy Thai or Jeet Kune Do. No other martial arts out there are meant for the kind of sheer brutality of these styles, at least none I've heard of.
     
  18. mcmattyd

    mcmattyd TrauMMA Combat - Sales

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    killer intstinct can be achieved by practicing to get really mad at different things , start being a little violent
     
  19. Amiro

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    its an instinct duh thats why its called that.
     
  20. SweetDaddySiki

    SweetDaddySiki Orange Belt

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    I practice an art that involves wailing away at people at full speed and force with steel bars. The single biggest issue at first is to get the new recruit to actually aim for the person and cut through him as opposed to aiming for the weapon. People are naturally reluctant to hit other people with 3 pound steel bars. To break this we have the recruit stand still while an instructor hits him over and over. Then the instructor stands still while the student hits the instructor over and over, slowly at first than with increasing force and speed. This also serves to condition and break the natural flinch response and encourage instant offense.

    This is reinforced by carefully monitored pell work, where the student is drilled to attack the pell, slowly then more quickly. Once the student is willing to hit with confidence, then they can begin proper two man drilling, amping up the speed and force.

    By the time the recruit is ready to play for his prize, he is willing and able to instantly attack or defend at long medium and short ranges both armed and unarmed with full speed and confidence.
     
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