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I don’t care who you’ll give me.
Nobody fedor beat was well rounded.
You're not answering the question.
What makes Conor, Al Iaquinta, Barbosa, etc. well rounded?
I don’t care who you’ll give me.
Nobody fedor beat was well rounded.
It’s all relative for sure... I don’t want to take anything away from fedor I just think the mythical level of praise he receives is totally uncalled for. A great fighter with an mma skill set at a time where there weren’t many skill sets suited for the sportFor sure I cannot deny there was a lot of can crushing, but even if you remove them he still has more top wins....at this point. Khabib could surpass him.
They’re literally all more well rounded than just about everyone on Fedor’s resume. The only exception would be Nog and even his striking was super rudimentary. Anyone who was as well rounded or more well rounded than nog actually beat fedorYou're not answering the question.
What makes Conor, Al Iaquinta, Barbosa, etc. well rounded?
It's worth mentioning that the two most decorated UFC champions ever (GSP & Anderson), got wrecked by cans. GSP was on top when that happened. Anderson had been previously ranked #1 WW.
Fedor fought cans (mostly in between his top ranked opponents), but he didn't get schooled by them like GSP and Anderson. Plus he fought a lot more (up to 5 times a year), so it's not like he fought cans instead of top fighters.
If you take Fedor's Prime, say 03-09, and cut out the "cans" (I fucking hate that term because it forced me to include fighters like Gary Goodridge and Fujita in that catagory) he fought 11 worthy opponents in 6 years. Thats about 2 a year, pretty much on par with what most modern champions do. He just supplemented that with another 10 or so high risk low reward fights against sub par competition to stay busy.
They’re literally all more well rounded than just about everyone on Fedor’s resume. The only exception would be Nog and even his striking was super rudimentary. Anyone who was as well rounded or more well rounded than nog actually beat fedor
Yes, GSP got caught and Anderson did have some bigger holes in his game at that point. I'd say that greatness comes more from top wins than not losing so I'd say they have the advantage in having more top wins, especially GSP who holds the MMA record there.
I didn't say that Fedor never fought anyone good, I just corrected someone that said that Khabib fights cans compared to what Fedor fought, which just isn't true for any high level fighter in today's MMA.
No he's not, how dumb can you be?Khabib is a lot more impressive, all things considered
Conor stopped, survived and still won after surviving grappling attacks on the highest level on more than one occasion. I’m not saying Conor is super well rounded by today’s standards, but the sport is at a different level now, whether or not you like to admit it. Especially at lighter weights.Really?
What makes Conor so much more well rounded than a guy like Arlovski?
Besides being a striker with KO power, Arlovski didn't panic on the ground (had grappling background), had 3 wins by sub and was only subbed once in his career. Conor has 1 win by sub and has been subbed 4 times.
So?
So because khabib fought high level competition earlier in his respective career, he’s more impressive? Why do I even respond to your posts?No he's not, how dumb can you be?
The guy has 16 uber-cans as his first 16 fights. He arguably has two respected Top 10 wins.
Fedor was dusting guys like Schilt, Herring and winning titles over the #1 HW in the world by his 14th fight.
They're not even remotely comparable. Get off the glue fucko.
There are parallels but also big differences as well. Fedor was mysterious. Khabib is open.sherdoggers will say no, even though he is the closest fighter to fedor we have since a long time ...
I'm assuming you're shaking and raging and meant to say Fedor? Proof read dipshit.So because khabib fought high level competition earlier in his respective career, he’s more impressive? Why do I even respond to your posts?
WW rankings were a lot more generous than HW rankings though.
Examples: Hardy becoming #4 after beating #7 Mike Swick, Brett Rogers becoming #6 after beating #2 Arlovski. Serra going from unranked to #1 after GSP. Werdum becoming #2 after Fedor.
There several other examples like this. The top ranked wins argument is simply flawed.
Has he got a nice striped sweater???Russian, undefeated, undisputed, undamaged, more dominant than anyone, destroys everyone in his path, never been rocked, humble, soft-spoken, likes desserts....yes? no? Discuss.
but they were fights where the stars could shine and get higher status and more exposure. .
hmmm...nah.... It´s actually the complete opposite.
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...hs-part-8-mma-cans-the-unsung-heroes.3822123/
I think Rogers worked at Jiffy Lube..
You really contribute nothing to this websiteI'm assuming you're shaking and raging and meant to say Fedor? Proof read dipshit.
No it's because his resume is 10x better and he went 10 years undefeated in HW MMA.
Khabib has two Top 10 wins on his resume and 16 straight nobodies.
How dumb can you be?
Khabib is fighting more impressive, more well rounded competition more consistently and being far more dominant and beating them all the exact same way. It’s overall more impressive
Going undefeated for long periods is a lot more impressive today than 15 years ago, especially at lightweight