I wanna see what it feels like to be fueled by ketones. Main question is can i do this diet while training as hard as i do? I do about 8-10 hours of muay thai a week and 3 hours of weight lifting with some running i like to add in.
Keto diet while training hard?
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This, I tried it for a couple of months when i was running more than i do now, and holy christ i was weak and exhausted.
I'm still weak, but at least i have the energy to drive home now
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A small serving of linguine post-workout, with some shrip, chicken and a bunch of veggies>>>>
Anyway, you can roll lowish carb, i still think i'm about 100g a day maybe a little more when i lift, but if you're going sub-80 you're going to feel it and sub-50, you're going to feel like dirt. The first couple of days aren't so bad, but as the weeks start to add up, your body is going to be freaking out.
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lol no. With that kind of activity level its impossible to make progress in sport while in ketosis. Especially muay thai and weightlifting. Save yourself the trouble and don't even attempt this.
MMouse will tell you what low-carb did for his muay thai performance. More carbs = better sport performance.
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it's not worth it for me. some people operate very well off a keto or keto-esque diet, but i do not. if it works for you, then do it.
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How about backloading carbs to the night time instead? Ive got a similar schedule and when i have to diet for a fight i find protein/fat in the daytime followed by protein and post workoit carbs (sweet potato/white potato/white rice in my case) with maybe some yoghurt for dessert is best for balancing energy and fat loss
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Yes you can, but it takes a very well-thought approach. When doing activity (to facilitate a specific purpose, I doubt you're lifting weights to compete in weight lifting, if you are and are trying to gain muscle, that might be problematic), it just requires precision. It's very easy to screw up and end up not feeling very well. However, if the goal is to be lean, and to do Muay Thai well, then yes it's absolutely possible. You wouldn't be the first to do so successfully for a combat sport.
Yeah im already fairly lean but i wanna lose about 5 more lbs to get into the single digits and keto is the only thing ive never tried before and considering ive never been in the single digits despide doing quite a bit of cutting (lost a chit ton of muscle also) I have a really good feeling about it. Ive looked into it a bit and am thinking of trying the TKD method and IF. Im not trying to compete in weight lifting but id like to maintain my SS linear progression if possible. Could u guide me or link me some articles as to how to approach this the correct way?
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That's not true at all. It's incredibly difficult to get right though. Most people that drop into keto just screw it up. In keto you really need to micromanage your intake of fats while still consuming enough veggies / fiber.
The big question is, although it is possible to do with that level of activity, is it necessary to improve performance? Most likely not.
would only be doing it short term to drop the last bit of fat
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Personally, I never found it optimal for athletic performance (aside from conditioning). Typically, there's an adaption period where your body will have to become accustomed to utilizing primarily fat. Then, it may take a while to tweak things, because it is incredibly easy to screw up.
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Physiologically speaking, regardless of precision or micromanagement of nutrient intakes, a ketogenic diet/state cannot power anaerobic activity (which is a large part of sports like MT) to anywhere near the same degree as a diet with sufficient carb intake. It's simple as that.
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That's ridiculous. Anaerobic ability may diminish a bit, but it's not like you're body suddenly stops allowing for any anaerobic ability.
The majority of studies that show a significant drop in performance only track for a week or two. The body needs time to grow accustomed to utilizing fat as the primary source of fuel.
Like I told TS, it's not optimal, but it won't kill performance like some of the keto-phobes in here think it will.
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At least you tried it. Most people talk shit about it without even trying
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I've done it. It can work. Only way to know if its works for you, is to try it, and experiment.
Realize that while you carb depleting, and fat adapting, you may feel sluggish. This is when most people give up. They never even allow heir bodies to adapt to fat, as energy.
Realize that while you carb depleting, and fat adapting, you may feel sluggish. This is when most people give up. They never even allow heir bodies to adapt to fat, as energy.
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TS:
If you are serious read this:
http://www.amazon.com/Art-Science-L...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1351043007&sr=1-1
tl;dr:
- You need to be PROPERLY keto adapted
- You need to eat enough fat
- You need to supplement your diet with a 2g+ broth/salt, and if you experience cramps need to supplement/eat magnesium
I lift heavy, go up 5 lbs every time or every other time I lift and go on 10-20 mile hikes over rough terrain. And i'm keto. It's not impossible - most people fail because they don't supplement their sodium, and if you don't, you'll experience dizziness/weakness/nausea. I would never change your diet in a radical way before a competition though, only do so when you have some time to experiment, fail and then perfect.
If you are serious read this:
http://www.amazon.com/Art-Science-L...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1351043007&sr=1-1
tl;dr:
- You need to be PROPERLY keto adapted
- You need to eat enough fat
- You need to supplement your diet with a 2g+ broth/salt, and if you experience cramps need to supplement/eat magnesium
I lift heavy, go up 5 lbs every time or every other time I lift and go on 10-20 mile hikes over rough terrain. And i'm keto. It's not impossible - most people fail because they don't supplement their sodium, and if you don't, you'll experience dizziness/weakness/nausea. I would never change your diet in a radical way before a competition though, only do so when you have some time to experiment, fail and then perfect.
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