Ken Shamrock and Royce Gracie's last MMA fight

mkt said:
a one-armed boxer. .
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hmmm... this one is a fallacy, tho... One Glove literally improvised on the spot, nobody [not even Art Davie] knew b4 his entrance that he would use only one glove.
 
mkt said:
a one-armed boxer. .
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hmmm... this one is a fallacy, tho... One Glove literally improvised on the spot, nobody [not even Art Davie] knew b4 his entrance that he would use only one glove.
 
Ken got beat low blow maybe but he lost

disappointing fight
I was 95 % sure Ken beats him this time

he did in 95 but Gracie family changed rules before fight
That hurts Ken’s legacy

beating Royce was big for Ken
 
TheNinja said:
Both are pioneers of the sport but I wouldn’t put it past either one to be involved in a fixed match or to cheat. Royce fought dirty and PEDs and Ken’s slip vs Rich was super suspect.

watch his feet. What the hell was he doing ???

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Ken was going for a rolling leg lock but knees went

he did crank the ankle after
 
He was going for a TD, in a kinda weird way.
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Leg lock

ala his teacher funaki
 
TheNinja said:
Both are pioneers of the sport but I wouldn’t put it past either one to be involved in a fixed match or to cheat. Royce fought dirty and PEDs and Ken’s slip vs Rich was super suspect.

watch his feet. What the hell was he doing ???

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That is super suspect but you can see Rich isn't pulling anything in those punches. That left hand is an absolute haymaker, which isn't typically indicative of a fixed match.
 
Oxycodone said:
That is super suspect but you can see Rich isn't pulling anything in those punches. That left hand is an absolute haymaker, which isn't typically indicative of a fixed match.
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It’s not really Ken’s knees are shot
Maybe suspect for people that don’t know grappling Ken has confirmed it he went for a rolling leg lock
 
Idonotbelieveit said:
It’s not really Ken’s knees are shot
Maybe suspect for people that don’t know grappling Ken has confirmed it he went for a rolling leg lock
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It's just the weird jumping onto his toe knuckles that's suspect. Probably just panic/a brain fart, honestly.
 
gono btw said:
The OW Config. was already an equalizer, tho.
Shoes or gloves, UFC 1 is the direct heir from the traditional Brazilian Vale Tudo days, & that´s how things were done since 1934, whether them Gracies would be involved or not [see the different scenes outside Rio de Janeiro]

Ken´s skill set at the time was heavily influenced by his Pancrase run, & he obviously couldnt anticipate the necessary adjustments he had to do while facin´a BJJ guard in a pure NHB environment.
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He learnt a lot from first fight he beat Royce down in 2nd
His family changed the rules pre fight

If Royce fought Ken in 2002 he’d get mauled
He did in 95

his brothers carried him out of cage
 
Ken can't strike for shit.. He was hesitating to attack on the feet with Royce..

Royce..
 
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