Keenan's Father Speaks

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  1. Jagcorps_esq

    Jagcorps_esq Red Belt

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    "My Statement on The Lloyd Irvin Team's Rape Issues and our Son, Keenan:

    I've been inundated with e-mails and calls about Keenan and whether he is going to stay or leave the LI team. Well, that's not up to me. Keenan is 20 going on 21 --and he's smart, independent, talented, and fully supported by his mother and I.

    As for all of the rape issues on the table; rape is an unacceptable act of violence - and not something I want my daughters or sons to have to face or live with. My heart goes out to all of the people involved --as the destruction and damage to both the victims and perpetrators will be long lasting and painful. Are the allegations all true? That's not up for me to decide; the legal system and the media will reveal the truth in time. May the appropriate punishment be doled out to the sociopaths that commit rape; and may healing and wisdom come to the victims and their families.

    Personally, I want my son out of that environment and far away from the whole scene. What I've heard and experienced recently and over the last month or so has convinced me that there are far, far better situations and people to be involved with --and while good things have come from involvement up to this point, the situation is far from ideal and I want my family far away from it all.

    Keenan was a very talented BJJ practitioner before he moved to Maryland --and will continue to shine, I'm sure. I do not want the stain of the piss poor judgment and violence committed by those involved to attach itself to Keenan's reputation --and my opinion is that he should, out of principle, immediately resign from the team and go involve himself with a new group of peers and friends.

    I will encourage Keenan to cultivate a new team and sponsors and I'd like the whole scene to go on as it will without our family's involvement. I hope the allegations all turn out to be false and that this ugly wound on the reputation of the martial arts, in general, heals quickly and is replaced by the awareness that we have to coach our young men to understand what rape is --and why it is an unacceptable act of violence and blatant, damaging disrespect."

    State was posted on Tom Callos's facebook. Bloody elbow is going to post an article with the source, but you can see it on his Facebook page if you follow him (you don't have to friend him).

    The direct link is: https://www.facebook.com/tomcallos/posts/10151334701284250
     
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  2. ijustwannasurf

    ijustwannasurf Brown Belt

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    Edit- Boom goes the dynamite. There are so many cautionary tale, karmic justice angles to take, I don't even knew where to begin.
     
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  3. 100%Jiu-Jitsu

    100%Jiu-Jitsu Banned Banned

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    Wow. And so it begins.
     
  4. xMikeyX

    xMikeyX Purple Belt

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  5. bjjaz

    bjjaz Got the Rock...Time to Roll

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    Join ATOS or something hahahahaha
     
  6. bjjaz

    bjjaz Got the Rock...Time to Roll

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    I guess the empire is beginning to fall...
     
  7. indulf

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    wonder what else happened in the last month that has his dad upset?
     
  8. UpaLoompa

    UpaLoompa Grand Quasiprophet of the Sakaran Apocolyps

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    Link to this statement?
     
  9. Nomad Nemesis**

    Nomad Nemesis** Brown Belt

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    imagine if he joined mendes bros school
     
  10. Difeco

    Difeco Blue Belt

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    Really? That would be stupid...

    "creonte" move
    I really don't believe that Keenan want's this...if he does, he's a complete bitch
    What his father said is a lie, Keenan was nothing pre-LI.
     
  11. Jagcorps_esq

    Jagcorps_esq Red Belt

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    Uggh. Really? We get to hear this "creonte" crap from another Brazilian.

    Sweet.
     
  12. nodferatu

    nodferatu Drilling in the south

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    He wouldn't be a creonte in this situation.
     
  13. flej

    flej Blue Belt

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    This sucks for all these other guys I'm sure, as upset and shocked as we (that don't know li) are, I can't even imagine what's going thru these guys heads.


    Anyways, good luck to Keenan this weekend in Brazil.
     
  14. KJGould

    KJGould Silver Belt

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    This isn't going anywhere, and nor should it.

    It's going to take more than some attempt at SEO manipulation to make this go away.
     
  15. xMikeyX

    xMikeyX Purple Belt

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    Seriously- what others things could be so heinous ?
     
  16. Jagcorps_esq

    Jagcorps_esq Red Belt

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    It's on his Facebook.

    I added a link to it.
     
  17. LucaTheDamaja

    LucaTheDamaja Yellow Belt

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    I train at a loose affiliate and I can tell you my head is spinning from all this. Really shitty situation for me.
     
  18. indulf

    indulf Orange Belt

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    lol.

    the ultimate creonte move is to RAPE A TEAMMATE. and since lloyd is using this terrible situation for marketing purposes while covering up his own involvement in a gang rape i think there's good cause to find another place to train.
     
  19. Nomad Nemesis**

    Nomad Nemesis** Brown Belt

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    you are from brazil and you don't know what a creonte is?
     
  20. Nomad Nemesis**

    Nomad Nemesis** Brown Belt

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    i am sure there is some other stuff, but this is just the icing on the shit cake.

    could be peds, could be other random shit, who knows.
     

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