Keenan vs. Lister

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by GKY, Jan 12, 2015.

  1. GKY

    GKY Green Belt

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    I'm surprised no one is talking about this. Lister just got tapped again by Keenan. Last time Lister got tapped it started an entire catch wrestling resurgence, so it's kind of weird that no one seems to care.

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  2. ThinkGreen

    ThinkGreen Der Übermensch

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    Very impressive by Keenan. Dude is an animal. His kimura grip was very nice!
     
  3. chunglii

    chunglii No Me Duele Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Lister still partying hard I assume?
     
  4. kjg1672

    kjg1672 Brown Belt

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    I forgot how young Keenan is. 22, lol. What a talent.
     
  5. fanboysareevil

    fanboysareevil Green Belt

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    Jiu Jitsu guys aren't nearly as desperate for validation ;)
     
  6. snakeybizz

    snakeybizz Purple Belt

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    lol at "entire catch wrestling ressurgence"...

    it led to a few forum threads and that's about it
     
  7. Matsukaze

    Matsukaze Blue Belt

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    Probably because Keenan is an extremely high level BB and so it comes to no ones surprise.. If Lister submitted Keenan maybe would be a different story.. not knocking Lister but Keenan is young and a beast on the mat
     
  8. D1wrestla

    D1wrestla Purple Belt

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    Keenan is awesome and lister was a late replacement. It was a awesome sub tho.

    Edit: also the tonon vs held match was awesome
     
  9. rmongler

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    No one really gave Barnett the time of day, that's why people blew up when he won.

    Keenan is already a 'known element', so to speak. Him winning big is expectable.
     
  10. ThatBJJGuy

    ThatBJJGuy Brown Belt

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    no one i know had Lister as the clear favorite. no bjj guys were talking crap.

    Catch wrestlers just claim any little victory to show their fake sense of superiority.
     
  11. Zankou

    Zankou Muscle and Hate Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    That kimura counter to the armdrag single was just exquisite. I love the characteristic modern disengagement of the legs after the kimura grip is taken, rather than trying to play kimura from a classic guard context ... an inverted, crucifix type control being used instead. Keenan showed a goddamn masterclass on countering the single leg with the kimura there.

    Nice leglock attack from Dean.

    Loved that double by Keenan, hitting a double on Lister not so easy!
     
  12. D1wrestla

    D1wrestla Purple Belt

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    Yeah I remember thinking forsure the match would go to a draw before it happend. I was wrong but still I wasn't thinking lister was gonna tap josh
     
  13. selfcritical

    selfcritical Brown Belt

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    Contrast of expectations. Not a lot of people expected Barnett to be able to hang, so when he completely dominated, there was a "shit maybe we need to look at what he's doing". Keenan just did what he did last time, but better. Keenan straight killing dudes is the default right now.
     
  14. HelloJapan

    HelloJapan Talking loud and saying nothing. Platinum Member

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    Great match. Lister looked a little sluggish to me, age and wear&tear i guess. Keenan is a beast.
     
  15. Zankou

    Zankou Muscle and Hate Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    You can see the difference in natural size. Lister is around 40 pounds heavier than probably his natural best weight. Keenan is right on his natural best weight. As the match drags on, the guy at his natural weight gains an ever increasing physical advantage.
     
  16. deadlizard

    deadlizard cold blooded

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    I blame cardio.

    Age will kill you. #truestory
     
  17. rmongler

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    Ma once told me, best advice her mother in law ever gave her was: 'don't get old'.
     
  18. Zankou

    Zankou Muscle and Hate Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Age, drinking heavily, carrying a ton of extra muscle, and not doing enough cardio, in Lister's case, will indeed kill you.

    Just as it's probably killing me. :icon_cry2
     
  19. beeran1

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    Awesome match. Keenan was so sure he had the triangle that he let go of that arm, which seemed to me to be the clear path to submission.
     
  20. NSchoke

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    Lister was on the card already, just switched opponents. Keenan said he did 0 no-gi for prep so it probably affected him more.
     
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