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MSNBC are now making a case for Harris to make the patriotic case for immigration during the debate stage tonight.
According to MSNBC.

Harris should make a case onto why Welcoming Mass Migration/immigration is a patriotic thing to by welcoming thousands of migrants into communities.
Its not surprising that MSNBC are pro open borders, they are hoping this helps their side.

Kamala Harris should make the patriotic case for immigration at the debate



The vice president needs to communicate to the American people that Trump's noxious views on immigrants are poisoning the country.
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“Illegal immigration is poisoning the blood of our nation.” With such openly bigoted language, Trump has brought nakedly authoritarian impulses into the heart of the country, poisoning the Enlightenment values that make America the beacon of democracy. It was during the Trump administration that everyday people witnessed migrant children being locked up in abhorrent detention facilities.
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Harris and Democrats can and should make the case to voters that supporting America’s legacy of welcoming immigrants is the patriotic thing to do.
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No idea these people were eating their neighbors' dogs. <damn>
 
They aren’t wanted. Eventually the desire of most Americans needs to come into play in this discussion.

Do they expire? Are their picking crops days over after one summer to which we need to import about 2 million more to replace them?
 
No one is open borders, that's dumb as fuck.

But yes, she should going forward focus on the positives of immigration while emphasizing streamlining the process and handling it humanely but firmly instead of being more hawkish so as to not come off weak to swing voters/conservative voters
 
deviake said:
No one is open borders, that's dumb as fuck.

But yes, she should going forward focus on the positives of immigration while emphasizing streamlining the process and handling it humanely but firmly instead of being more hawkish so as to not come off weak to swing voters/conservative voters
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I also heard no in favor of defunding the police <lmao>
 
deviake said:
The police haven't been defunded, what are you laughing about? Obama and Biden admins also deported more people than Trump or Bush Jr.

Any other bangers?
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The police were defunded in many cities and Biden invited illegals to surge the border. Which resulted in record illegal crossings. Sell your bullshit to someone else.
 
deviake said:
The police haven't been defunded, what are you laughing about? Obama and Biden admins also deported more people than Trump or Bush Jr.

Any other bangers?
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Definitely misleading

Biden has allowed exponentially the most in over any president over just one term. Deportations were basically send back(some more than a few times individually) during the emergency order but most of those people ended up getting in. Especially after it was lifted. As far as actually deporting people that had been released in the interior. He has deported the least.

Obama wasn’t god awful on immigration. Not great. I have more issues with refugee resettlements than his actual southern border. DACa was dog shit too.

Comparing anybody to Bush as if Bush was supposed to be an example of good tough immigration policy is laughable..

Obama was better than Bush on immigration who before Biden was probably the most open border President we’ve ever had. He was doing here what Tony Blair was doing to the UK ant the same time.

Unlike Biden though. Who didn’t want people to view him as an open borders President. Bush openly boasted about it and remains proud of it to this day. Rhetorically, even before becoming President I’ve always considered Obama to the right(used to be considered to the left at that time) of Bush on immigration. Especially in regards to the cheap illegal labor kind.

Less people were getting into the country under Trump. Especially after the second year.
 
Mr Holmes said:
The police were defunded in many cities and Biden invited illegals to surge the border. Which resulted in record illegal crossings. Sell your bullshit to someone else.
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What cities, where, and yes, and there were more deportations. Even Trump just this debate questioned why the Biden administration kept his policies in place the last few years. Sell your bullshit to someone else.
 
Kingz said:
Definitely misleading

Biden has allowed exponentially the most in over any president over just one term. Deportations were basically send back(some more than a few times individually) during the emergency order but most of those people ended up getting in. Especially after it was lifted. As far as actually deporting people that had been released in the interior. He has deported the least.

Obama wasn’t god awful on immigration. Not great. I have more issues with refugee resettlements than his actual southern border. DACa was dog shit too.

Comparing anybody to Bush as if Bush was supposed to be an example of good tough immigration policy is laughable..

Obama was better than Bush on immigration who before Biden was probably the most open border President we’ve ever had. He was doing here what Tony Blair was doing to the UK ant the same time.

Unlike Biden though. Who didn’t want people to view him as an open borders President. Bush openly boasted about it and remains proud of it to this day. Rhetorically, even before becoming President I’ve always considered Obama to the right(used to be considered to the left at that time) of Bush on immigration. Especially in regards to the cheap illegal labor kind.

Less people were getting into the country under Trump. Especially after the second year.
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His admin deported more people than Trump but yes, from my understanding more people entered than Trump's though I've not interrogated why. IIRC at one point more people were leaving during the Obama admin than were coming in. I don't know what's bad about DACA.

Obama is on video saying by 80s standards he's a moderate republican.
 
deviake said:
What cities, where, and yes, and there were more deportations. Even Trump just this debate questioned why the Biden administration kept his policies in place the last few years. Sell your bullshit to someone else.
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ABC was horrible with the debate.

No hard questions on Harris at all.
When it came to the Middle Class Harris didn't answer that one at all.

there were more deportations
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Not really..
There are migrants who are coming through the US to the Canadian borders.
 
GoldenWolf87 said:
ABC was horrible with the debate.

No hard questions on Harris at all.
When it came to the Middle Class Harris didn't answer that one at all.


Not really..
There are migrants who are coming through the US to the Canadian borders.
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The specifics of who, what, where, why, couldn't tell ya, in terms of numbers though, it's not a debate. The open borders bullshit needs to die. It's not true nor has it been. Fucking Bernard Sanders isn't open borders.

They didn't press Harris on her flip flopping even after she gave a long winded non-answer. Trump was bullshitting the entire time. Edit: Not just bullshitting, but saying comically untrue, INSANE things that are already being memed
 
oski said:
No idea these people were eating their neighbors' dogs. <damn>
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I tried dog that was not a very tasty meat. In Korea where they eat it they claim it keeps you fertile and hard, but even they do not claim it as a tasty meat. JD Vance making claims about immigrants eating dogs unproven yet if they are... I feel very sorry for them they must be starving. Unless Koreans then they are in need of baby making.
 
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