Kali

peregrine said:
anyone incorporte kali into their game?
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Miminal. The locking principles are very similar to BJJ but as far as the actual art in MMA, I don't personally in terms of its unarmed techniques.

That doesn't mean that it isn't practical or anything as I've learned so much from FMA. It's just that you can't use weapons in MMA which are what the FMA are best known for.
 
There's not enough FMA teachers ballsy enough to try to bring Kali principles into MMA. The Dog Brothers are the only ones that I know of with such an instructional.
 
I used to take Kali lessons, but nothing other than stick fighting.
 
The Dog Brothers = awesomeness. I've seen some of their matches, brutal stuff.

I would think the trapping techniques more resembled JKD, or Vice Versa, but since Kali was around before BJJ and JKD both (unless I"m mathematically mistaken), I would say they resemble it.

Kali has a lot of very practical principals as well in it's teachings of fundamental lessons. Like in knife-fighting. How they say never attempt to stab deep into the person's body from the outside when it makes more sense to cut the thing that's closest to you, the hand, the knee, the finger, etc.

Lessons like that can translate to any aspect of multi-dimensional tactics.
 
for armed combat its great, ive learnt nunchaku arins-sticks and id luv to learn balisong techs but there illegal here in OZ :icon_sad:
 
I train it for self defense but other than the footwork I can't see it being very usefull in a MMA competition.
 
like was said the footwork is what i could use kali for. entries, exits and set ups including some of the silat sweeps. i have done mt and boxed for years and have not seen it broken down that way.
i am experimenting with a lot of ideas when we spar with the padded sticks and trying to find my way.

any more input greatly appreciated.
 
I'd like to incorporate it more. But as I stated in another thread my coach doesn't teach it anymore, so my opertunities are limited & i'm having trouble finding another school in the midlands area.

A major factor I see when I use sticks is the increased hand eye co ordination, If I spar with sticks before a boxing session, It seems like fists come in slow motion & are no problem.
 
I like the basic principle of Kali: disarm the weapon. Whether it be a hand, knife, stick, whatever. It's a great mindset for self-defense.
 
higgz said:
I like the basic principle of Kali: disarm the weapon. Whether it be a hand, knife, stick, whatever. It's a great mindset for self-defense.
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The Filipino arts is all about simplicity.

I learned Escrima (Kali) from my family with an emphasis on dumog and double/single sticks. I'm also okay with a balisong but am more comfortable fighting single stick as I use it for trapping and grappling.
 
King Kabuki said:
The Dog Brothers = awesomeness. I've seen some of their matches, brutal stuff.

I would think the trapping techniques more resembled JKD, or Vice Versa, but since Kali was around before BJJ and JKD both (unless I"m mathematically mistaken), I would say they resemble it.

Kali has a lot of very practical principals as well in it's teachings of fundamental lessons. Like in knife-fighting. How they say never attempt to stab deep into the person's body from the outside when it makes more sense to cut the thing that's closest to you, the hand, the knee, the finger, etc.

Lessons like that can translate to any aspect of multi-dimensional tactics.
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JKD is Bruce lee's invention. Bruce studied styles like Mantis, Kali, etc, which all use trapping techniques. so you can see why.
 
I'm not sure how much of it is kali based, but I know that Gene Lebell has an instructional out for law Enforcement only that is street-situation grappling with a club. it's supposed to be law enforcement restraint trapping and grappling so cops don't get sued for beating people into submission, instead they use their batons to (I assume) tie arms up, fang choke, etc.
 
21st centuryJKD said:
I'm not sure how much of it is kali based, but I know that Gene Lebell has an instructional out for law Enforcement only that is street-situation grappling with a club. it's supposed to be law enforcement restraint trapping and grappling so cops don't get sued for beating people into submission, instead they use their batons to (I assume) tie arms up, fang choke, etc.
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haha. no matter how you train cops, you know that that doesn't happen that often. sure there are times that they do things like they are supposed to, but there are many times that they dont.
 
Liquid Snake said:
haha. no matter how you train cops, you know that that doesn't happen that often. sure there are times that they do things like they are supposed to, but there are many times that they dont.
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Can you blame them? Their life is at stake, and they never know what the arrestee's intentions are. So they freak out like everyone else.
 
I use the Kali stuff in the clinch along with the Muay Thai.
 
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