bought a pair from budovideos for 64.90 shipped ups ground. i'm not an expert on mma gloves, i only have the 4oz and 8 oz truth gloves, fairtex nhb gloves, century mma gloves and the title boxing "grappling gloves" but out all of the those i would have to say that the shooto gloves would be the best for training. there's ample about of padding around the knuckles not as much as a pair of 14oz boxing gloves but enough for light striking. haven't had the opportunity to try them on the heavy bag or pads yet but when i do i'll update this thread. as far as fitting issues, i ordered a size small as i am 5'7" and 160 lbs. the gloves well they fit like a glove no pun indended. it did feel a little tight on the loops over my fingers but i think i just have soften the leather up a little. all in all the best training gloves i've purchased and hopefully the last.