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Apparently grappling can get you killed: Street Grappling, A Recipe For Disaster - Ironlife Magazine Issue #7
Nevermind that in my recent encounter ( http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/grappling-streets-ufc-124-a-1464878/ ) if he had succeeded with that takedown who knows what would have happened. And if I had been purely a striker he surely would have succeeded, imo.
Look at the scenarios there. Particularly this though:
Fantasy scenario 3 - Mr. BJJ just can't seem to stay out of trouble, he's been hanging out in the park minding his own business, when the local tough guy in a bid to prove his stupidity challenges him to a fight - one on one, winner gets the respect or lack there of. Mr. BJJ is delighted. One on one, and on grass, this is perfect for him. Now he can go for that ultra cool flying triangle he's been practicing that ought to raise some pulses.
Mr. BJJ begins to takeoff his jacket in preparation for the bout, and gets blindsided by his opponent. A wrestlers take down follows (or a tackle to the layman) No biggy here. Our hero pulls guard and begins to work for a triangle choke. Sadly his opponent instead of playing by the rules and passing out like a good boy decides to jam his thumb in Mr. BJJ's eye. Our hero is forced to relinquish the choke in order to save his sight. While tackling the eye gouge issue Mr. BJJ becomes aware of a new sensation, his opponent has grabbed his nut sack and is squeezing. All semblance of technique is lost. Frantic to retain his balls Mr. BJJ rolls into the fetal position (or fatal position in this case) Head stomps ensue......oh dear.
Nevermind that the flying triangle bullshit is a huge leap. He's stretching so far he makes goatse man look like an amateur. Just forget that part.
What I really don't get is why dude is taking off his jacket. I'd want to keep the ezekiel open, not to mention protect my arms from whatever might be on the ground, even if it's grass.
Or how a dude is gonna thumb your eye from inside a triangle and not get either put to sleep or his arm broken. Passing out isn't a "rule", it's fuckin' biology.
Then when the eye gouge does happen - for whatever reason he lets go of the choke. Why? I don't need to see to squeeze. Nevermind that I can rip at this guy's eyes too, and unlike me, while he's inside the triangle he has no hip control and nowhere to go. (See Silva's elbows vs lutter as example)
So he lets go and now the guy grabs his nutsack somehow.....from where? Is he inside the guard now? Or is this some sort of loose open guard? I don't follow.
And then, after the ball grab he rolls into the fetal position...first I don't think that is going to remove a hand from your nutsack. Second I am guessing turtle would be preferred to going fetal (sorry Brock)
And how do you go from being behind some guy grabbing his nuts to landing head stomps? By the time you get to your feet he should be following you into a single or double leg imo.
Insanity.
Nevermind that in my recent encounter ( http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f12/grappling-streets-ufc-124-a-1464878/ ) if he had succeeded with that takedown who knows what would have happened. And if I had been purely a striker he surely would have succeeded, imo.
Look at the scenarios there. Particularly this though:
Fantasy scenario 3 - Mr. BJJ just can't seem to stay out of trouble, he's been hanging out in the park minding his own business, when the local tough guy in a bid to prove his stupidity challenges him to a fight - one on one, winner gets the respect or lack there of. Mr. BJJ is delighted. One on one, and on grass, this is perfect for him. Now he can go for that ultra cool flying triangle he's been practicing that ought to raise some pulses.
Mr. BJJ begins to takeoff his jacket in preparation for the bout, and gets blindsided by his opponent. A wrestlers take down follows (or a tackle to the layman) No biggy here. Our hero pulls guard and begins to work for a triangle choke. Sadly his opponent instead of playing by the rules and passing out like a good boy decides to jam his thumb in Mr. BJJ's eye. Our hero is forced to relinquish the choke in order to save his sight. While tackling the eye gouge issue Mr. BJJ becomes aware of a new sensation, his opponent has grabbed his nut sack and is squeezing. All semblance of technique is lost. Frantic to retain his balls Mr. BJJ rolls into the fetal position (or fatal position in this case) Head stomps ensue......oh dear.
Nevermind that the flying triangle bullshit is a huge leap. He's stretching so far he makes goatse man look like an amateur. Just forget that part.
What I really don't get is why dude is taking off his jacket. I'd want to keep the ezekiel open, not to mention protect my arms from whatever might be on the ground, even if it's grass.
Or how a dude is gonna thumb your eye from inside a triangle and not get either put to sleep or his arm broken. Passing out isn't a "rule", it's fuckin' biology.
Then when the eye gouge does happen - for whatever reason he lets go of the choke. Why? I don't need to see to squeeze. Nevermind that I can rip at this guy's eyes too, and unlike me, while he's inside the triangle he has no hip control and nowhere to go. (See Silva's elbows vs lutter as example)
So he lets go and now the guy grabs his nutsack somehow.....from where? Is he inside the guard now? Or is this some sort of loose open guard? I don't follow.
And then, after the ball grab he rolls into the fetal position...first I don't think that is going to remove a hand from your nutsack. Second I am guessing turtle would be preferred to going fetal (sorry Brock)
And how do you go from being behind some guy grabbing his nuts to landing head stomps? By the time you get to your feet he should be following you into a single or double leg imo.
Insanity.
