Just curious, did anyone profit from betting over time?

guesswhoseback said:
Ya he very rarely ever loses I cant recall the last time he lost an event. And he shows proof of his bets as well whenever clowns want to call him out. Alot of people on here will claim I bet 500$ on this or 200$ on this or somethign along those line but never once shows proof. I am not saying they are all Lieing but Sadicists will show any bet slip you dont believe, He also gets amazingly good lines
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Do you recognize any pattern that he bets with? I don't personally see anything impressive from his betting that you listed.
 
JustOnce said:
Interesting, nothing stands out to me other than maybe Smith, but if he's winning with such big money bet, he got something going.

Thanks!
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Well yea what I have been doing since for the past 2 months is not exactly following his bets but somewhat following his bets I bet every fight not just 1 or 2 and if we disagree with a bout I will just take the over or under instead like the Sanders bet he placed I liked Maness But I just took the under and ended up winning on it. I also agreed with his smith bet so I bet bigger then my normal amount
 
JustOnce said:
Do you recognize any pattern that he bets with? I don't personally see anything impressive from his betting that you listed.
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No I dont then again I am not the greatest gambler out there either. I am up since I started betting MMA not much but I bet about 50-100$ a fight and I am up about 600$ since I started betting MMA about 6 months ago. 1 Thing I do notice he gets amazingly good lines. If I had to guess hes prob going to bet Vettori at dog odds, He prob got Doldize at an amazing line Benitez at dog odds. But he usually post Fri night or sat morning so we will find out then.
 
JustOnce said:
Do you recognize any pattern that he bets with? I don't personally see anything impressive from his betting that you listed.
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These were his bets for Perez vs Fig fight

Perez +270 $400
Perez/Figueiredo O1.5 -128 $300

Calvillo -150 $750

Rua DEC +325 $250

Moreno -178 $2000

Buckley -203 $2000
Buckley RD1 +180 $100
Buckley RD1 KO +230 $100

A. Shevchenko -109 $255

Jouban -123 $2000
Jouban KO +425 $100
 
guesswhoseback said:
These were his bets for Perez vs Fig fight

Perez +270 $400
Perez/Figueiredo O1.5 -128 $300

Calvillo -150 $750

Rua DEC +325 $250

Moreno -178 $2000

Buckley -203 $2000
Buckley RD1 +180 $100
Buckley RD1 KO +230 $100

A. Shevchenko -109 $255

Jouban -123 $2000
Jouban KO +425 $100
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Yeah thanks!

I just dont see it I guess what hes doing thats special. Based on two you showed me...nothing I can tell...
 
JustOnce said:
Yeah thanks!

I just dont see it I guess what hes doing thats special. Based on two you showed me...nothing I can tell...
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The two I think since Ive been here maybe about IDK 15 events he lost once and that was because he only had 1 bet that event. and from what I recall it was a robbery as well. but you can go back and look if you want very rarely he loses
 
joenewbie said:
This is mostly true. I have bet too much on a few guys that were heavily promoted here (ie, Ghokan Saki) plus lost a few split decisions. I have won some underdogs and lots of favorite and still lost money over time. But I also don't live bet. The bottom line is gambling is a profitable business for the house. If it wasn't they wouldn't exist, gambling companies wouldn't have stock that's traded on the stock exchanges, and tribes wouldn't be opening casinos constantly. It's easy to think that most bettors are just squares that are betting on their favorite team, or their hometown team, or betting on a female fighter because she is hot and that's where the house makes all their money, but I don't think that's as true as we want to think. A lot of sharp bettors lose money in the long run too. I was talking with a cab driver in Vegas who said there are very few "professional" gamblers, or at least professionals that last very long. There are just some that are better than others and some that get lucky. Also remember that if you are very good long term then the bookies will place limits on your bet size which limits your profits. I wanted to be good at picking underdogs, and I can sometimes, but for the most part the lines are set correctly for the house to make a profit and finding that "hidden" underdog is pretty hard. Right now I have traded sports betting for investing in the US stock market. That's risky too but long term should be profitable.
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I think that there is more money to be made in gambling on MMA than trading on US stocks. In fact, stocks trading is extremely difficult. Investing is another activity though, not to be mistaken with trading.

One thing that would really interest me is to see stats on odds and the following results. My guess is that if you pic all favourites a million times, you will lose all your money, because the bookies need their cut, so that your odds are worse than real odds.
 
JustOnce said:
Yeah thanks!

I just dont see it I guess what hes doing thats special. Based on two you showed me...nothing I can tell...
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He's mainly winning even on underdog plays, what where you expecting?
 
benebox said:
He's mainly winning even on underdog plays, what where you expecting?
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Hes 2 out of 5 for underdogs from what I saw. Smith makes no sense either. Im not hating , just curious.
 
JustOnce said:
Hes 2 out of 5 for underdogs from what I saw. Smith makes no sense either. Im not hating , just curious.
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Its easy to pick who you think will win a fight and get it right. A lot harder to back your picks and lay down the chalk. Overall if your winning on a event and making good profit does it matter if you picked underdogs or not?
 
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AK-47 said:
Its easy to pick who you think will win a fight and get it right. A lot harder to back your picks and lay down the chalk. Overall if your winning on a event and making good profit does it matter if you picked underdogs or not.
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Well thats what the other guy was saying like i said not hating on him or anything just curious
 
JustOnce said:
Well thats what the other guy was saying like i said not hating on him or anything just curious
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consistency is king. Anyone at some point can have a good event or two. But to do it almost everytime is what makes the difference
 
AK-47 said:
consistency is king. Anyone at some point can have a good event or two. But to do it almost everytime is what makes the difference
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Well i cant really see anything that stands out. Let me know what does
 
Bookies aren’t fortune tellers they win by the matter of the juice and encouraging action on both sides so that no matter which fighter wins they win money regardless. If you really know what you are doing(which i don’t in mma lol) there is def money to be made. Esp a sport like mma where there is heavy line movement because of the lack of knowledge from oddsmakers.
 
JustOnce said:
Interesting, nothing stands out to me other than maybe Smith, but if he's winning with such big money bet, he got something going.

Thanks!
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I think sadistic bets stand out because he is getting amazing lines. Long term that makes a huge difference. I don't know what you expect from someone standing out. It's mainly about getting good lines, managing bankroll and be disciplined. All of which are easier said than done.
 
DonQ94 said:
I think sadistic bets stand out because he is getting amazing lines. Long term that makes a huge difference. I don't know what you expect from someone standing out. It's mainly about getting good lines, managing bankroll and be disciplined. All of which are easier said than done.
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So how is he getting such good lines? I dont get it.
 
JustOnce said:
Do you recognize any pattern that he bets with? I don't personally see anything impressive from his betting that you listed.
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It's ridiculous to expect to find a pattern from a winning bettor if you aren't a winner yourself.

Obviously he is seeing some things that you are blind to.
 
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