Judo Video request

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  1. Senshi

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    A while ago i had seen a highlight of Choi Minho and it was all his ippon and i think it may have been to the song "victory" with the rocky music in the background. i cannot find this anywhere and was wondering if anyone had it or could post a link to it.

    i would also like to discuss some of his throws once the video is posted. thanks


    EDIT: The video has been posted and i am now asking questions about all the throws. Come one come all JUDOKA and share you're knowledge!!!

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    someone posted a video the other month with an american judoka with a hispanic last name, something with a J i believe. it was a Highlight of his career. the guy was pretty nasty and he would almost pull guard, but flip his uke over his body by sticking his leg in his opponents hip and get ippon from it. anyone can direct me to his HL or his name. thanks
     
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    thanks for the link

    and thanks for the video too! furious fist. i'm living in japan now and the google search engine alwasy brings up some other stuff.
     
  5. Senshi

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    Alright, onto my questions and let me predicate this post with the fact that i'm a judo novice to the full extent of the word. logical well thought out explanations will be much appreciated. people who come on here saying things to the effect of "if its a throw... it's a throw" won't be appreciated.

    throw number one...

    soo at about 46 seconds he pretty much gets to the climax of the throw. would you say this is good technique, i know he pretty much committed and if he were to back out im sure he would jeopardize his position. to put this in another context, if you were practicing throws in class and your instructor saw you do this would he have a lot to critique ?

    i have a bunch more but i kind of want to keep this one at a time. thanks guys im very greatful to hear so much great advice from so many 柔道か
     
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    ^^he ends up like that because the other guy is defending, in randori things can look very funky, I mean if you did it like that when only practising throws a coach might be pissed because you are supposed to work the standard way (and get tons of repetitions in)

    if you do it free form no problem.

    it is basically a Ippon sei but with grapping the collar instead, a valid technique just not textbook
     
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    that ippon is really nice, if you can get their arm pinned between you and their chest it's wicked
     
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    alright i stand corrected (which will happen often in my judo questions)

    ippon two was pretty sweet!

    onto ippon number 3.

    if you go too about the 2:26 mark.... is this a common setup for judo as in dropping to both knees and semi giving your back. i come from a BJJ background and for me it makes me nervous : )

    ippon number 4.... so it looks like he almost goes for a fireman's carry or pancake, i'm sure this is a judo terminology for this move so forgive me for not knowing it.

    in judo are you allowed to shoot in for single legs or doubles if you can successfully flip your opponent? and if you were to successfully use a fireman's carry would that be ippon?

    once again thanks a lot. i wanted to change the title of this thready to maybe get more input but i can't maybe i'll start a new thread, maybe not. thanks guys
     
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    no direct double/single or firemans carry attacks anymore thanks to the idiots in the international federation

    you can do it as counters or if you do it s a combo but it has got to be in direct connection with the first throw and not a false attack

    if they grip over your back you cna counter with it or counter an uchi mata and similar
     
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    honestly, thanks soo much for the help, that kinda sucks though cause i used to wrestle and was thinking it would be good for offense, but on the other side of things it seems like it may help my defense. thanks a lot dude.

    do you know why "those idiots" made it so?
     
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    they wanted to promote a certain style and crack down on stalling. make it more spectator friendly
     
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    Funny, looks like a couple of those "victories" would end up with him getting choked out or submitted by an experienced grappler. On in particular at 2:44 the guy ends up on his back with his hooks in.



    EDIT: not looking to bash Judo by the way. In fact, after another year or two I'd like to start taking Judo (don't want to put too much on my plate at once as far as "learning"). I think this illustrates the unintentional theory/premise that the orginal UFC's proved...and continue to prove: There is no "one superior style"....to be a truely effective/well-rounded fighter you must know several different forms.
     
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    There is a legitimate reason for trying to stop what they were trying to stop. People were repeatedly shooting for singles and doubles, which don't really work very well very often in Gi against an experienced opponent. and then just flopping to the ground in the turtle and stalling for a stand-up. Over, and over, and over again. It was completely not judo and an exploitation of the rules.

    I think the way they tried to solve it was a bad idea, could've made bailing and stalling the penalty instead of any initial leg attack, but that's why. Idiot execution, not idiot reason.
     
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    japan had done really well in athens winning a gazzilion gold medals but in beijing things didn't go too well for them, at least not comparared to athens. the japanese judo association pressured for the change of the rules because they said judo was starting to look too much like wrestling.
     
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    yeah but people wouldn't throw like that if there wasn't an instant win/ippon at the end, that would just be stupid, we may be liars, pigs, idiots, stupid but we are not pornstars
     
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    alright so the ippon at 3:56. what is this move called i've never really seen it before but is this legit in judo? obviously he won the match but it looks a little unconventional to me. it was awesome though!!

    if someone were to maybe drop to their knees or even almost look as if they were going to go for a dump or fireman's carry, would you be able to hit a switch on them and then lift them over themselves and be considered ippon? similar to the way he won the last match? thanks again guys, this thread has really helped me a lot
     
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    someone posted a video the other month with an american judoka with a hispanic last name, something with a J i believe. it was a Highlight of his career. the guy was pretty nasty and he would almost pull guard, but flip his uke over his body and get ippon from it. anyone can direct me to his HL or his name. thanks
     
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