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Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by seiken88, Aug 23, 2010.

  1. seiken88

    seiken88 White Belt

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    Question about the difference between judo and sambo.

    From what I have seen, judo and sambo have very similar techniques. I know sambo has a different approach to ground game, but are the any main differences in their stand-up techniques?
     
  2. YeahBee

    YeahBee Samdog Original Nine

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    More wrestling based. and rolling attacks due to them having leglocks
     
  3. Galahad

    Galahad Orange Belt

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    Sambo has no gripping penalties, no restriction on leg attacks, no chokes, leglocks, and if I remember correctly you can't win by pin.

    Keep in mind this is sport sambo, not combat or freestyle sambo.
     
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    Sambo has more emphasis on groundwork and submissions, as where judo is mainly throws. Sambo also has looser rules on the feet, including shots being allowed, and no grip penalties. In Russia, there is a big cross over between the two. And most gyms train both. Judo has larger competition, so sambists tend to compete in both Judo and Sambo.
     
  5. seiken88

    seiken88 White Belt

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    Thanks for the replays. Having only done judo and some bjj, I am always interested to learn about other grapple arts
     
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    juji gatame** Brown Belt

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    For a more well-rounded grappling base try Sambo. If you wanna beef up your takedowns/throws try Judo.
     
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    lechien Gold Belt

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    Uchi Mata Preaching the gospel of heel hooks and left kicks

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    I wish there were more places to train sambo. Best leglocks around, IMO. I would love to roll with some sambo guys.
     
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    I have trained in both Sambo and Judo. There are many differences but those differences really depend on the Judo school you find. What that means is this. Russian Judo schools, meaning where the coaches (as they are reffered to back in Russia) train Judo with a very Sambo feel to it from a gripping perspective. So if you go to a Judo school like that, the throws you will learn will actually be vastly different than if you go to a traiditional Judo school. Different because the variations wont be the same, nor will the combinations, grips, or overall game.

    Sambo has better ground...yes and no. Sambo has leg attacks, but even in that case Sport Sambo competitions dont allow any type of Leg Submissions, there are restrictions. Judo guys who train at a good spot, will actually have very good Arm Bars and turnovers when someone Turtles up. So again, its more of a toss up.

    What you should do is actually start with Judo. Do it for 2 years to learn the real basic throws. Then cross over to Sambo where you will be exposed to Grips and setups that you never saw before. At that point your Takedown game will be solid.
     
  10. KBE6EKCTAH_CCP

    KBE6EKCTAH_CCP Arrow sash belt with papakhka

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    I think it's very similar arts. I wish I could train sambo.

    However, I much prefer judo.

    I don't want to train leglocks, and I like chokes much. It's a matter of taste.

    However, I think so far that sambo grips are more wrestling inspired (less lapel and sleeve grips like conventional judo), which can be a good thing : better for no gi and allows more pick ups.

    Purists would say that it's ugly judo. In the end, again, it's just a matter of tastes.
     
  11. PikachuManson

    PikachuManson Green Belt

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    I love judo but id switch over to sambo in a minute just so i cpuld improve my leglock game
     
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    knoxpk Black Belt

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    I have at least tried most of the well known grappling systmes, I would love to add Sambo to that list.
     
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    I've done Judo for about twelve years but if given the chance I would switch to Sambo in a second.
     
  14. Katsumi Yamada

    Katsumi Yamada Silver Belt

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    sambo doesnt allow chokes though right?
    i cant imagine a well rounded grappling base without chokes :D
     
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    The rules of Sport Sambo do not allow chokes, but Combat Sambo does.

    In class rolling, chokes are always included.
     
  17. DynamoJudoSambo

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    For the most part RDCC is correct but I do slightly disagree with his assessment of Russian judo schools. Having trained in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine on 13 different occasions I have found that in MOST CASES judo and sambo are taught together. At one point you'll be taught a sambo based technique and then the next technique might be a pure traditional (aka Japanese) technique.

    The Russians do not get caught up in dogma, the cool thing about sambo is there is no problem with adapting something from another grappling style--in fact that is how sambo was created. One thing I observed is how they adapt the technique to a particular body type rather than forcing the body to a technique in a strict manner.
     
  18. fourfif**

    fourfif** Banned Banned

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    10/10 for Sambo. that's cool.
     
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    Sambo is a style invented by two Russian judoka who additionally mixed in elements of traditional soviet and asian wrestling styles and a secret recipe of 11 herbs and spices.
     
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