Joshua vs Wilder as of Now. Who takes it?

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After the Dubois loss, do You think Joshua would be seriously threatened by Wilder in a potential match?
 
Joshua didn't look like himself against Dubois. He made too much rudimentary mistakes. It's a very disappointing performance. He's a much better boxer than what we saw displayed the other day imo.

A top notch Joshua beats Wilder imo.
 
Now we will never know how good and legit was prime Wilder.
But he isn't in prime, he 39 years old with heavy baggae of 3 fights with Fury, that took very heavy toll on him. He may think either about retirement, going down to bridger for some easy belt to run away from challange or just be a walking scalp for Usyk or Joshua to their trophy collections.
The very least - Joshua is over 4 years younger. And I think he was always better, even when the age wasn;t that much a factor.
 
Why do you hate both? They have taken enough punishment and HW boxing is heavy damage business. Let them enjoy their millions in retirement time. There's life beyond boxing.
 
Wilder might be completely washed up, but he still has that missile of a right hand. If Joshua fights tentatively with his hands low like he did yesterday, its 50/50.
 
Joshua 100%. I think Wilder in his prime would have likely beaten Joshua but even though both have declined Wilder is a ghost. There is nothing left of him. Its sad and i hope his asshole trainer doesnt talk him into another fight against any Top 20 boxer.
 
Like it has always been. Whoever lands big first.
Both guys extremely vulnerable, open, off balance, & "chinny" at this point in their careers.

Both dudes prefer to go out on their shields it seems.

The post Ruiz AJ that was boring & terrified of getting hit could easily probably outbox & stay away from Wilder for 12 rounds.

Wilder could easily batter AJ all over the ring to the canvas with clubbing unorthodox shots from all angles.

AJ could land first & get Wilder out of there.

I use to say Wilder had more heart & a better chin/durability. However, AJ has shown tremendous heart in his losses. Has looked Durable against Usyk and came back from the DDD whooping to hurt him & almost change the tide of the fight. Wilder looked completely shot & chinny against Zhang.
So no telling who has the advantage when the going gets tough anymore.

Who knows. They should make it and cash out. Still a bigger better draw than most of the HW championship match ups

Would be a crazy co-main for a big card.
 
Boxing unfortunately doesn't work like that. It has to be for all the marbles or it doesn't matter. Apparently there's a rematch claus but I'd rather see AJ vs Zhang they fought in Olympics so they have some history. If AJ can't beat him then he should retire
 
joshua
wilder is beyond shot
at least joshua showed some signs of life
 
Wilder is completely Shot … no need for him to fight anymore
 
Wilder has a shit chin and no skill.
Joshua only has a shit chin. He will land a big one first and wilder will be gone
 
2 shit chins the question is can wilder touch his chin and I think he does.

As sloppy wilders boxing is. AJ is to wrecklace of a boxer every time AJ gets comfortable he loses.
0 patience. When he's on a streak he always shows his cards unfolds his game plan. When he's on the rise back he's patient and smart.
 
You forget how sensitive and pathetic some American fans can be about the state of US HW boxing until you hear them STILL talking about Wilder as if he is a serious fighter at this point.

Just accept that the US currently lacks decent HWs. Don't engage in fantasies about this washed up novelty act.
 
You forget how sensitive and pathetic some American fans can be about the state of US HW boxing until you hear them STILL talking about Wilder as if he is a serious fighter at this point.

Just accept that the US currently lacks decent HWs. Don't engage in fantasies about this washed up novelty act.
I'm American and couldn't care less. We haven't had a genuinely great heavyweight champion in over 20 years. You'd have to go all the way back to Holyfield & Tyson. I'm excluding Roy since he wasn't a natural heavy and his fight against John Ruiz was strictly a one-off.
 
I'm American and couldn't care less. We haven't had a genuinely great heavyweight champion in over 20 years. You'd have to go all the way back to Holyfield & Tyson. I'm excluding Roy since he wasn't a natural heavy and his fight against John Ruiz was strictly a one-off.

I said 'some'. Not all.

I wish there was a strong American HW champ again so that the media could stop obsessing over pillow-fisted midgets and silly 'P4P' nonsense to compensate.
 
I said 'some'. Not all.

I wish there was a strong American HW champ again so that the media could stop obsessing over pillow-fisted midgets and silly 'P4P' nonsense to compensate.
I've seen certain American fans that are still sensitive about it but it's been long enough now to where they should've lost any remaining shred of hope. Our heavyweights have better options than boxing. There's no need to get punched in the head for a living when most of them can make even more money in the NFL, NBA, MLB & NHL.

Secondly, they shouldn't feel sensitive or bitter considering that the best heavyweight boxers of all-time have been American. Not having any decent heavyweights from the US now doesn't change this.
 
I've seen certain American fans that are still sensitive about it but it's been long enough now to where they should've lost any remaining shred of hope. Our heavyweights have better options than boxing. There's no need to get punched in the head for a living when most of them can make even more money in the NFL, NBA, MLB & NHL.

Secondly, they shouldn't feel sensitive or bitter considering that the best heavyweight boxers of all-time have been American. Not having any decent heavyweights from the US now doesn't change this.

Lucas Browne and Bermane Stiverne are not American.
 
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