News Jordan Burros changes mind wants an MMA fight



Interesting wonder who he should fight…
UFC should sign him, if they signed CM Punk then why not a beast olympic wrestler

Cause CM punk was a professional wrestler this guy is a bum Amateur only
 
He's not just any wrestler. He's an Olympic gold medalist. A few months of exposure to high level bjj to learn submission defense and Jordan becomes unstoppable on the ground like Cormier and Cejudo. Can he learn striking too? Of course, but his base is grappling and that's where he'll dominate.

Danis will have nothing for Burroughs on the ground.

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Whatever man, no matter what you say you aren't going to convince me that someone who has no cross training that comes from a wrestling background should try and fight BJJ specialist on the ground.

Purposefully fighting a BJJ guy on the ground when you have no BJJ training just sounds like the worst possible gameplan. Even DC who you brought up wasn't stupid enough to fight Mir on the ground and he had years of cross training by that point vs Jordan's none.
 
Whatever man, no matter what you say you aren't going to convince me that someone who has no cross training that comes from a wrestling background should try and fight BJJ specialist on the ground.

Purposefully fighting a BJJ guy on the ground when you have no BJJ training just sounds like the worst possible gameplan. Even DC who you brought up wasn't stupid enough to fight Mir on the ground and he had years of cross training by that point vs Jordan's none.

Lesnar seemed to hold his own against Mir pretty well.
 
Lesnar seemed to hold his own against Mir pretty well.

Lesnar didn't fight Mir in his first ever fight and it didn't go very well for him the first time either, so bringing up Lesnar just strengthens my point.
 
Lesnar didn't fight Mir in his first ever fight and it didn't go very well for him the first time either, so bringing up Lesnar just strengthens my point.

I didn’t say he fought Mir in his first fight and Bourroughs shouldn’t be fighting the world champ either. Cormier had like a dozen fights before Mir.

Brock was a very green newcomer and fighting at the elite level almost immediately with substandard striking. I just think Bourroughs could do very well with today’s camps and training standards. He’s in the top 3 greatest wrestlers in US history. If he learned a rudimentary defense on the ground, bjj guys could be in serous trouble.
 
Well he can't do any worse than Ben Askren who was also a one dimensional wrestler. Jordan Burroughs is more athletic though. He could develop decent striking and learn some submission defense after 6 months of training. The key question is how well he can take a punch. Ben, to his credit, had a good chin with the exception of the Masvidal KO.

There are quite a few examples of dominant wrestlers like Brock Lesnar who couldn't cut it in MMA because they didn't have the ability to take a punch.
 
I didn’t say he fought Mir in his first fight and Bourroughs shouldn’t be fighting the world champ either. Cormier had like a dozen fights before Mir.

Brock was a very green newcomer and fighting at the elite level almost immediately with substandard striking. I just think Bourroughs could do very well with today’s camps and training standards. He’s in the top 3 greatest wrestlers in US history. If he learned a rudimentary defense on the ground, bjj guys could be in serous trouble.

I totally agree with that but my point was about Jordan's gameplan specifically for his first fight after his first 3 months or so of cross-training. Fighting Danis on the ground wouldn't be the way to go. Against that specific person and type of match up early in his career I don't think he would want to wrestle, I think it would be easier for him to out strike him or hold him against the cage and use the clinch.

I think he can be a top level fighter for sure.
 
Burros? Sounds Brazilian.
 
bellator was letting their guys double dip with dubya dubya wrasslin and mma.... like bobby lashley and jack hager. they can prolly cook up some jobber for jordan to smash n then show up to a wrassle taping the next day
 
Well he can't do any worse than Ben Askren who was also a one dimensional wrestler. Jordan Burroughs is more athletic though. He could develop decent striking and learn some submission defense after 6 months of training. The key question is how well he can take a punch. Ben, to his credit, had a good chin with the exception of the Masvidal KO.

There are quite a few examples of dominant wrestlers like Brock Lesnar who couldn't cut it in MMA because they didn't have the ability to take a punch.
You mean the Askren that held titles in multiple orgs and made a ton of money?
 
The Askren idea is actually pretty good. I think Burroughs would win. The UFC doesn’t mind humiliating Askren either so they might allow it.

Another option is Burroughs vs. Dake jerking the curtain for a Paul card. They would get paid and the attention would attract wrestlers.
 
You mean the Askren that held titles in multiple orgs and made a ton of money?

Yes, the same Askren who made a name for himself beating up cans in Asia and then got exposed as soon as he joined the UFC. What about him?
 
Yes, the same Askren who made a name for himself beating up cans in Asia and then got exposed as soon as he joined the UFC. What about him?
Do you watch MMA?
Askren dominated a bunch of guys with UFC pedigree, went to make money in Asia after that, then for a couple fights was a .500 guys at the end of his career at age 35 vs some top 15 UFC guys.

Or are Douglas Lima, Jay Hieron and Lyman Good cans?
 
If Burroughs wants to fight, then I'll be happy to watch
 
Do you watch MMA?
Askren dominated a bunch of guys with UFC pedigree, went to make money in Asia after that, then for a couple fights was a .500 guys at the end of his career at age 35 vs some top 15 UFC guys.

Or are Douglas Lima, Jay Hieron and Lyman Good cans?

Most of the guys he fought outside the UFC were nobodies. The 3 you mentioned aren’t particularly great names either. Lima loses to wrestlers and never made it beyond Bellator. Heron is another Bellator/IFL guy who went 0-3 in the UFC. Lyman Good is a UFC journeyman who’s gone 0.500 so far.

Lawler, Masvidal, and Maia were better than anyone Askren ever fought and it showed. Robbie put one hell of a beat down on Ben who only ended up winning after Herb Dean blew it. We all know what happened with Masvidal. And 42-year Demian Maia schooled him on the ground. Technically, Ben should have been 0-3 in the UFC.

I know people like to cite Ben’s age as the reason for his poor UFC run but that excuse doesn’t hold up. Masvidal was the same age is he and with twice as many miles. Robbie Lawler was 2 years older than Ben and Maia was in his 40s, both past their prime.

Ben deserves credit for getting as far as he did with such a limited skill set. But he withered as soon as he faced real competition. If his UFC run taught us anything it’s that you need to be well rounded in order to have success at the highest level in modern MMA.
 
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