Jones: better or worse than he seems?

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  1. DivineMind Brown Belt

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    When I look at a champ like Khabib, I see complete and utter dominance. He makes guys quit in the ring, and makes it look easy. His wrestling is so damn good that I can't see any other lw on the planet beating him, other than with a fluke KO.

    Jones, on the other hand, has a significant amount of very close wins.

    DC 1 was a slugfest, with neither fighter looking great by the end. DC 2 was a close match up until the KO (hell DC might have even been winning until that point).

    OSP fight was unimpressive. Santos fight was very close, and the guys legs were shot. Gus 1 was very close. Gus 2 jones had a great game plan for, so I'll give him that one.

    With all these close wins, is Jon overrated / lucky ? He clearly isn't very dominant. Other than Gus 2, I haven't seen him put on a Khabib style one sided beatdown in a while.

    Or is all of this on purpose? As he leaves his athletic prime, maybe he has just adopted a much more careful and meticulous style (like Kobe in his 30s), meaning he is content to get the close wins ? Maybe he is just that good and all this is part of the plan?

    Which one is it?
     
  2. Zebra Cheeks 2Cheeks Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Turns it up every time he expects to have to up his game. He’s better than you think.
     
  3. Connor McGregor Banned Banned

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    Conor made Khabib look very human at times

    Also Jones dominance is tied directly to PEDs. Lately he has only been a picogram better than his competition.
     
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    The difference between jones dominance and khabib is all mental
     
  5. loisestrad Gold Belt Platinum Member

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    "All the close wins"? There's Santos and Gus 1. That's two. You could say DC 1 was close, but it was still a clear win for Jones. And DC 2, seriously? You count a win by ko in the 3rd as a close fight?

    That's 2 (or 3) close fights out of 26.

    Oh, and Khabib vs Tibau was pretty much as close as Santos and Gus vs Jones.
     
  6. Roop Holstry Red Belt

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    Well it’s not hard to do when Khabib is in fact a human.

    Conor got utterly dominated so I’d like for you to point out the specific moments where Conor was getting the better of Khabib, with your troll account.
     
  7. DivineMind Brown Belt

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    Ya but I'm talking about recent bouts. Smith wasn't close but given how trash Smith is the performance should have been much better.

    Jones was super dominant early on. Had some amazing finishes against killers. Tooled a lot of people.

    DC 2 I had DC up before the KO. And headkick KOs are a little fluke-ish. DC got sloppy and paid for it
     
  8. nostradumbass Steel Belt

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    He's lost a lot more rounds than Khabib and Khabib wins a lot more 10-8 rounds in a way more stacked division.
     
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    Conor won the 3rd round and was clearly getting the better of Khabib in the first round exchanges until Khabib managed to force a takedown.
     
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    You don't get lucky for a decade..
    Even if/when he eventually loses there's no denying his abilities
     
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    lol...
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  12. boladiQup Purple Belt

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    Khabib - 3 championship fights.

    Jones - 14 championship fights.

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  13. Dbreiden83080 Andle My Riddum

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    Lol.. Khabib compared to Jones

    What an embarrassing comparison my friend. Look at the fucking resumes. Jones has the single greatest resume in the history of the sport. Honestly it isn’t even close.
     
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    DC Top three fighter that ever lived. Jones only beat him twice. Yeah that was easy.
     
  15. bend24 Yellow Belt

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    Not sure if delusional hater or shitty troll
     
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    Oh, you're talking about fighting?
    Who knows, man. Can't tell until he stops pulsing. When the pictograms stop living in his system, he'll show us what he's really got. Could take six years for that shit to die, though - so we've got awhile to wait.
     
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    Smith Is a heck of a fighter what are you talking about? Light heavyweight is the class he should have been fighting all along. Smith is huge. He also beat up and finished Gus right after the Jones loss.
     
  18. DivineMind Brown Belt

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    I'm not talking about accomplishments or GOAT status.

    I merely am pointing out that current version of Jones seems like he's been skating on thin ice recently. Khabib looks like a monster that can't be defeated.

    I guess I'm wondering whether Jones, having lost his physical dominance, is likely to lose soon.

    Or are his intangibles just that good that he's still leagues above everyone else?
     
  19. DivineMind Brown Belt

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    No offense to Smith but the guy is a can. Gus retired, that's not a big win.
     
  20. Dbreiden83080 Andle My Riddum

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    Khabib Has fought a lot of tomato cans. So the comparison is bullshit.
     

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