Jon Jones vs Dominick Reyes - a closer look at the match up

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Jon Jones vs Dominick Reyes - a closer look at how they match up against each other
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On the 8th of february, Jon Jones (25-1) will once again try to successfully defend the UFC's light heavyweight belt - this time he's up against the #4 ranked contender Dominick Reyes (12-0) - so let's take a look on how their abilities match up to each other.

Table of contents:
1. Quick summary and tell of the tape of Jon Jones and Dominick Reyes
2. A further examination of Jones' and Reyes' skillset
3. The keys to victory: what have Jones and Reyes to do in order to win?


Quick summary - Jon Jones
Record: 25-1 (19-1 UFC)
Age: 32
Stance: orthodox
KO/TKO: 40% (3x KO, 7x TKO)
Sub: 24% (6x)
Dec: 36% (8x UD, 1x SD)
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Reach: 84.5" / 215 cm
Leg reach: 45"

The best fighter of all time for many despite his asterisk, but certainly the most dominant light heavyweight of all time by quite a margin, Jon "Bones" Jones embodies what many consider to be the blueprint for the perfect fighter. Having great wrestling coupled with devastating ground and pound, vicious strikes from the clinch, a good submission-game and last but not least a striking skill set which is based around picking opponents apart and slowing them down from range, making use of his humongous reach, Jon Jones is a terrible foe to go up against and has proven to be the bad match up that one would expect given his abilities, against pretty much every opponent he has faced.

Quick summary - Dominick Reyes
Record: 12-0 (6-0 UFC)
Age: 30
Stance: southpaw
KO/TKO: 58% (3x KO, 4x TKO)
Sub: 17% (2x)
Dec: 25% (2x UD, 1x SD)
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Reach: 77" / 196 cm
Leg reach: 43.5"

Having strung together a win-streak of 6-0 inside the UFC with four of those wins coming by finish, the "Devastator" Dominick Reyes looks to beat Jon Jones the coming weekend, crowning himself the UFC light heavyweight champion. With a background in american football in which his athleticism was already apparent, Dominick Reyes is a fairly well-rounded kickboxer who fights from the southpaw stance and is to an extent reminiscent of Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipović, who, similar to Dominick Reyes, made great use of his kicks with an emphasis on his rear leg and - to the excitement of many and the distress of his opponents - knocked dudes senseless left and right. The future seems bright for Reyes, but with Jones as his next opponent he'll face his by far toughest challenge yet.

A further examination of Jones' and Reyes' skill set

- Jon Jones -
With these things said, what are we exactly looking at in terms of those fighters strengths, weaknesses and go-to strategies? Let's just start where the fight starts: on the feet.
Despite his background in wrestling, the stand-up is where Jones beats most of his opponents, especially nowadays, although he still goes for the takedown if the opportunity arises to so.
So what is it, that makes Jones stand-up so good? After all, he has never been outstruck in his entire UFC-career and he has faced the cream of the crop of the light heavyweight division for a very long time. Before we go deeper into the striking though, here's a short summary of why being the better wrestler helps in the stand up as well:

Short excursus: the influence of the wrestling threat in the stand up
First of all, it should be mentioned that being the better wrestler, especially offensively, helps significantly in the striking department, as it both opens up the opponents defense since he's understandingly worried about getting taken down and on the other hand frees up the superior wrestler from being concerned about getting taken down himself.
For this reason alone, the striking of great takedown artists is not seldom enhanced to a level where they're able to hold their own against fighters that'd soundly beat them in striking-match.
One of the most prominent examples of this is the fight between Khabib Nurmagomedov and Conor McGregor, where despite being outlanded on the feet, the "Notorious" was not able to land anything really significant and was at one point knocked down by the dagestani champion.
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Being worried abot a takedown from the forward-leaning Nurmagomedov, Conor McGregor moves his hips back and keeps his hands down to defend it - Nurmagomedov then knocks McGregor, who has his chin in the air down with an overhand right.

Other examples are Khabib's fights against Iaquinta (100 to 41 significant strikes on the feet) and his fight against Edson Barboza (32 to 23 significant strikes landed from distance.)

Back to Jon Jones: as mentioned, being the better wrestler helps significantly in the stand up and Jones is the better wrestler in almost every of his fights, but i'll delve into Jones wrestling' influence on his striking later again. A known factor of what makes Jones so effective, is his length and in particular his reach: standing at 6 feet and 4 inches (193 cm) tall, Jones is on the tall end of his division anyways, but his reach of 84.5 inches (215 cm) is almost unheard of, especially at light heavyweight.
To put into perspective: Alexander Gustafsson is at 6 foot and 5 inches of height (196 cm) and 79 inches (201 cm) considered to be a really long light heavyweight, yet he still gives up 5.5 inches (14 cm) in reach against Jones.
Granted, the fact that Jones opponents are almost always shorter than him and have a way shorter reach has helped him a lot, but his understanding and use of range is still exceptional in the sport.
Jones favorite weapons are linear attacks, which is understandable, as they've got the longest reach and with a fighter like Jones, they pay even more off, which is why he does some of his best work with the jab, cross, the teep to the body and lastly: the oblique kick. No matter what your opinions are on this controversial technique, there's no denying its effectiveness and you probably won't find a fighter in mixed martial arts who puts them to use as often and as effectively as Jon Jones does.
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Jon Jones landing an oblique kick on Quinton Jackson, like he did numerous time during that fight, slowly but steady shutting "Rampage" down completely.

It's not just that the oblique works for Jones in the sense that he's good at landing it to ensure he outstrikes his opponents, no, what makes it so effective is the fact that it slows his opponents noticably down, sometimes to the point where they become to shy to engage, as moving forward would mean to walk into another one of those kicks, increasing the power by moving into it as well.
This, alongside his mostly straight kicks to the body, allows Jones to outstrike, slow down and drain his opponents stamina all at once, which is a huge part on why he's so successful on the feet.
His jab and cross are nothing too remarkable, but he lands them with success most of the time as well and due to his reach it's almost impossible to land on Jones without him landing as well.
Often, Jones also extends his arm and uses it as a frame in order to keep his opponent away, but also to gauge distance and to grab his opponents wrist - not seldom has he used this technique to land elbows on his opponents.
As already said earlier, Jones has a fantastic understanding of range and his effectiveness from there is pretty much anparalleled, but if a fighter - or Jon Jones himself - decides to close the distance though, Jones does - if he's not going for a takedown - pretty much immediately initiate the clinch, which is the second area where Jones excels at; considering Jones' length, one would think that a huge part of his success in the clinch is due to his physical advantages and while it helps tremendously, there are many fighters with similar physical advantages in their fight who fail to be nearly as dominant and good as Jones is.
An opportunistic and intelligent use of elbows from the clinch, like in his first bout against Daniel Cormier and in his fight against Glover Teixeira is one of his trademarks and has definitely been one of his most effective weapons during his career so far.
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Jon Jones slicing up the against the cage standing Glover Teixeira with an elbow.

Jones weapons in the clinch are of course not only his elbows which he often uses after controlling his opponents wrist on the same side; he's extremely good at continuously controlling opponents, pushing them down in the open to land knees, but against the fence he arguably shines even more, as the pushing his opponents against the fence removes their stance, making them unable to generate power in their strikes, since Jones posts his head against his opponent's, making them stand up straight, while Jones creates space beneath him and his opponent, enabling him to land both body shots with his hands, but also the bespoken knees - all the while Jones' opponents fail to land anything significant and exhaust themselves.
Having talked about Jones' stand up, let's talk a bit about his wrestling.
As almost everyone remotely interested in mixed martial arts nowadays is aware of, Jones is a fantastic wrestler, both offensively and defensively. It's hard to pinpoint something in particular about his wrestling, as he does superbly well in all areas, no matter if it's takedowns against the fence like here against Daniel Cormier:
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...where his extremely long arms give him the advantage of having to cover less distance until he's around his opponents hips, takedowns out in the open, where Jones fluently transitions between striking and grappling, shooting a very fast double right after setting it up with punches or after he ducks under an opponents punches.
His very intelligent striking, especially his kicking, which often forces his opponents to stand taller in order to check kicks better, only compliments his wrestling and when Jones lands the takedown, his opponents find themselves with Jones being ground an pounded by Jones very fast, which is probably even worse than being in the clinch with Jones, as he's both an expert on landing strikes on the ground while also being in control of the scenario all the time, making him a nightmare to be on the floor with.
When it comes to submitting his opponents, the despite his lanky appearance as very strong known Jon Jones has proven to be an excellent fighter as well, with five of his UFC wins coming by submission, the first one against Jake O'Brien, the second one against Ryan Bader, another two against "Rampage" Jackson and Vitor Belfort and - his most famous win by submission - the guillotine choke with which he has submitted Lyoto Machida:
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After a failed takedown attempt, Lyoto Machida finds himself in a guillotine choke which he unsuccessfully tries to escape. Refusing to tap, Machida eventually goes unconscious and falls on the floor as Jones' lets him go after the Referee intervenes.

Lastly, Jones almost never finds himself in dangerous positions on the ground, which is largely due to the fact that Jones is absurdly hard to take down - despite his very high level of opposition, he's defended 95% of all his opponents takedowns so far, against former olympic wrestler Daniel Cormier, he defended 10 of 11 combined takedown attempts in their bouts.

To sum it up: Jon Jones is an extremely well-rounded mixed martial artist, but it's not like he's a perfect fighter technique-wise wherever the fight goes, although his technique is definitely something to behold at times, it's not the sole combination of well-roundedness and his physical gifts either; it's more so his incredible understanding of when to use certain techniques and how to apply them in a mma-specific context that makes him stand out as an exceptionally good and dominant fighter.

- Dominick Reyes -
The former college football stand out who made his UFC debut on june the 25th of 2017 against Joachim Christensen has gained traction fast in the UFC, finishing all of his first three (arguably four) opponents by either TKO or Submission, quickly gaining him the reputation of a dangerous, powerful striker and while he has somewhat struggled in a close decision win against fellow kickboxer Volkan Özdemir (despite outstriking him 44 to 35 significant strikes), he quickly has added another dominant win to his resume, in which he has finished the former middleweight champion Chris Weidman by KO.
What is it though that makes Reyes such a formidable fighter, especially on the feet? In the following, we'll take a closer look at Dominick Reyes' skills, with an emphasis on his striking, but before that, i'll invite you to another short excursus on what are some signs of (very) good strikers.

Short excursus: what is a (very) good striker anyway?
Generally speaking, most people would agree with the notion that a good striker is a fighter who wins the vast majority of his fights by outstriking and/or finishing his opponents on the feet.
Wrestlers like Daniel Cormier and Khabib Nurmagomedov tend to outstrike (and beat) many of their opponents on the feet as well, but then again this is to a not to be overlooked part due to their phenomenal wrestling, so when being asked what they would consider to be the best strikers in mixed martial arts, people mostly mention guys like Conor McGregor, Israel Adesanya, Anderson Silva and Stephen "Wonderboy" Thompson, whose strongest asset is the striking which takes place on the feet.
Occasionally, people also mention guys like Francis Ngannou, but since a large part of Ngannou's effectiveness on the feet is due to his power and not his technique, many feel inclined to leave him out of their lists, when it comes to the best strikers in MMA.
To narrow it down, a fighter is mostly considered to be a very good striker, when he's able to beat most of his opponents on the feet without an over-reliance of physical gifts like power, endurance and chin/durability having to make up for deficiencies in technique.
Therefore, when strikers win a fight, they usually outstrike their opponents (if it goes to a decision) or they finish them via KO or TKO.
But what is the difference between Israel Adesanya finishing Robert Whittaker and Derrick Lewis finishing Alexander Volkov? After all, both fights have ended by KO, right?
The difference is, that one of those finishes has come due to technical superiority, while the other one has come due to physical superiority, at least in terms of punching power.
Israel Adesanya, while certainly having solid power, is far from being a power puncher like Derrick Lewis is, yet his accuracy enables him to be extremely effective with his strikes.
Thus, accuracy is something which is almost always seen amongst the best strikers and while the stat significant striking accuracy shows the percentage of strikes that a fighter lands, it doesn't show how much a fighter might abandon his defense in order to do so, so it can be quite a misleading stat at times.
Also, most pressure fighters also tend to have less accuracy than counter strikers, but they land more strikes over the course of the whole fight. So is there any stat at all, which at least somewhat accurately shows how good of a striker a fighter is?
The short answer is no. The longer answer is still no, but only to an extent, as there are two stats which - especially when a fighters ranks high in both - are a good indicator of how good of a striker a certain fighter is.One of these stats is the number of knockdowns (in relation to the total fight time of a fighter, or if we're super nit-picky: in relation to the number of total strikes a fighter has thrown/landed).
If the fighters who rank high in this stat are not necessarily known for having insane power, chances are that they're very accurate with their strikes.
The other stat is the significant strike differential.
There are ways to rack up a high percentage for striking defense without being a defensive genius and there a ways to get up to a high percentage in terms of accuracy without being an accurate striker, but there's hardly a way in which you get a high significant strike differential without being proficient in the craft that is striking and this is due to one simple reason: it takes into account two of the most important stats in striking; the number of landed strikes (per minute) and the number of absorbed strikes (per minute), to be more exact, it's the difference between landed and absorbed (significant) strikes. It's the stat's equivalent to "hit and don't get hit."
With these stats in mind, let's look at a table for comparison with some of the best current strikers and those who're typically being mentioned when people are asked about the best strikers in mixed martial arts and of course, Jon Jones and Dominick Reyes:

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Back to business, Dominick Reyes typically walks his opponents down, constantly looking to land on them and for the most part, being very successful in doing so, as he's very good at his shot selection, mixing it up really well and while he lands the third most strikes per minute amongst active light heavyweights, it's worth noting that he at no point gets reckless with his defense in order to land on his opponents and makes use of both good head and upper body movement in order to do so, which is why he's also the active light heavyweight with the third least significant strikes absorbed per minute.
Away from numbers though, one of the things which becomes immediately apparent when watching Dominick Reyes fight, is that he's extremely fundamental.
He pretty much never uses any kind of flashy strikes or techniques.
Another thing which is typical for him is his frequent use of kicks; he throws a lot of them and he goes for all three targets: legs, body and the head.
Given that he's a southpaw and mostly fights against orthodox fighters, it makes sense for his approach to be that kicking-heavy, as he has both body and head of his opponent as an open power-target for his rear leg, with which he's often found success, be it by landing crushing leg kicks like he did a couple of times against in his fight against Ovince St.Preux or by driving his shin right into the dome of his opponent, like he did here:
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As mentioned in the beginning already, Dominick Reyes, just like Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic is a southpaw, and just like the croatian powerhouse, he also capitalizes on the southpaw double attack, which is frankly just a left cross followed by a left round kick or vice-versa.
It's almost comically simple, but its effectiveness has been proven over and over again, to a huge part by Cro Cop alone.
Basically, you're throwing one of these attacks, until the opponent forms the habit of reacting in a certain way to it, only for you to use the opponents habit against himself, making him eat either the punch or the kick as a result of anticipating the other and reacting accordingly.
When throwing the left cross repeatedly, the opponent will either try to parry it, or lean to the outside in order to dodge it, which then makes him vulnerable to high kicks coming from the exact same side, but like i said, it works the other way around as well; throwing high kicks until the opponent automatically puts his arm up to the side of his head in anticipation of a high kick, only to absorb a powerful straight with the face.
A detail worth noting is that Dominick Reyes is able to throw kicks without almost any wind up, which, coupled with his speed, makes it hard for his opponents to react in time and thus requires them to be constantly aware of that threat.

Don't be fooled into thinking that Reyes is mainly a kicker though, in fact, he is just as good with his hands and while both his handspeed and his power are certainly good, what makes his boxing (and striking in general) stand out besides the selection of his shots itself, is his timing and accuracy; as a result of that, he has won three of his six bouts in the UFC by either KO or TKO, with his latest win coming by finish against former champion Chris Weidman, clocking the "All american" with a counter left cross, finishing the downed Weidman a few seconds later with a couple of hammerfists to the jaw.
If you go back to watch his fight against St.Preux, you'll find that this decision win could've been ruled a KO as well, so Reyes really has proven to have tremendous accuracy in all these fights, with perfectly placed punches being the catalyst for what would shortly after end in a finish, with the exception of above mentioned fight, that is.
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"Precision beats power and timing beats speed" - As Chris Weidman extends his arm to land a right straight to Reyes head, Reyes steps slightlyto the left and just out of range, making Weidman's punch fall short while setting himself up to land a straight left right right to Chris Weidman's jaw, dropping him and thus enabling him to finish Weidman with the aforementioned hammerfists.

Of course, it's not Reyes' accuracy alone which makes him so good in striking exchanges, as he needs to create and/or find those openings first.
With great footwork and a fine understanding of angles as one of his main strengths, Reyes is able to do so often and with success; quite agile, especially laterally, Reyes displays fine footwork in his fights, often slipping punches while simultaneously stepping out on an angle to either reset himself or to punish his opponents from there.
A great example of this besides the finish of Weidman, is the knockdown right at the end of his fight against Ovince St.Preux:
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Feeling like he has the cornered Reyes in a good position to unload on him, St.Preux steps in with a two punch combination while Reyes slips the first punch and rolls under the second one while escaping to the left and knocking OSP, who by now is completely out of position, down/out with a beautifully placed left hand.

Once Reyes has noticably hurt an opponent, he'll not let his foot get off the gas pedal, continuously chasing said opponent down in order to not let him recover and eventually finish him. A rather known example of this happened during Reyes' fight against the former heavyweight and now middleweight contender Jared Cannonier:
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After making Cannonier miss a huge right hand, Reyes comes up to counter him with an upper cut, visibly stunning Cannonier. Reyes then proceeds to walk the hurt Cannonier down, constantly attacking him with both kicks and punches, eventually finishing him with another upper cut.

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Reyes backs the already rocked Joachim Christensen up against the cage and knocks him down with a left straight through the guard, eventually finishing him afterwards.

Having talked about most areas in Reyes' stand up, the only thing we haven't talked about yet is his clinch. So far, Reyes has not been in the clinch very often nor very long, which is why it's hard to make a solid assessment on how good he really is there, but he did really well against St. Preux, landing quite a few elbows and punches to the head during OSP's attempts of taking Reyes down against the fence, being deep into the latters hips

With all these things about Dominick Reyes' striking in mind, let's have a brief look at his grappling:
As it is the case with most strikers, Reyes' grappling revolves mainly (but not exclusively!) around keeping the fight standing and while Chris Weidman was so far the only real wrestler to step in the cage against Reyes, Reyes has proven to be very capable when it comes to denying his opponents successful takedowns, stopping 21 of a total 25 takedown attempts during the tenure of his UFC career, which adds up to a takedown defense percentage of 84.1%, ranking him at place 4 amongst active light heavyweights in this regard.
An interesting tactic in the area of Reyes' defensive grappling, is the so called "cheese grater" which is what Reyes and his team calls it, when an opponent has his grip around the hips of an against the cage pressed Reyes, while Reyes presses himself further into the netting wire of the cage, moving his body up and down, grinding the fingers of his opponents, eventually making them open their grip, thus losing control of a then released Dominick Reyes.
As previously implied, Reyes' has shown to be comfortable on the ground, with his second win in the UFC coming by submission against Jeremy Kimball, who Reyes took down with a trip, quickly advancing in position on the ground and finally making Kimball tap to a rear naked choke which was tightly wrapped around his neck.

To conclude it: Dominick Reyes might only be six fights into the UFC, but if we look at what he has shown so far, it's understandable why he has already made big waves: great striking, which in this case means proficiency in pretty much every area of the stand up department, be it timing and accuracy, shot selection, footwork and set-ups or power and speed, is what makes Dominick Reyes stand out in his division and contrary to many who're only good at one facet of this multi-faceted game that we call MMA, Reyes has proven to be a decent wrestler with a solid understanding of submission-grappling as well.



- The keys to victory: what have Jones and Reyes to do in order to win? -
Jon Jones is a better wrestler than anyone Dominick Reyes has faced so far and while Jones most likely has the tools to take down Reyes, he has shown a much more striking-heavy approach in the latter stages of his career.
Then again, Jones won't refuse the opportunity to take the fight down to the floor, should it present itself. Considering Reyes' very kicking-heavy game, it would make sense for Jon Jones to bait Dominick Reyes into kicking him into the body or the leg, so that Jones is able to catch Reyes' kick and take him down from there, both nullifying Reyes' greatest strength while simultaneously crowing with one of his own biggest strengths. That's of course not the only route to victory for Jones though; instead of the reactive takedown that's been mentioned before, Jones can opt for a proactive variant like a double leg out in the open as well, although it's probably not his best bet against someone like Reyes who has a good balance and is quite mobile, especially regarding his lateral movement.
Another possibility for Jones to take Reyes down is of course against the fence; this has the upside for Jones that Reyes' mobility is compromised, making him far more calculable and it's also a great way for Jones to take advantage of his cardio, to force Reyes to exhaust himself and also to inflict damage, as Jones has done so often with his opponents against the cage.
In order to get Reyes backed up against the cage though, Jones has to be wary when pressuring and trying to corner Reyes though, as he has proven to be a great counterpuncher who understands a thing or two about punishing opponents that felt too confident too early against a seemingly stalemated Reyes.
In the stand up, Jones should not let Reyes get too close, as Reyes has got the speed and power advantage, which, coupled with his boxing is extremely dangerous for Jones to go up against, especially since Jones' is comparatively average when he's not able to use his range (or clinch) in striking exchanges and has shown a few bad habits (for example: leaning forward, instead of ducking/rolling under punches and not looking at his opponent when dodging punches) in that range defensively.
Besides that, Jones should aim his teeps more towards the body instead of the knees of Reyes, as the latter is like mentioned very evasive, so it makes sense to go for a bigger target, as a missed oblique kick can leave Jones off balance, making him vulnerable.
If Jones is should find himself in a situation where he's not able to regain a distance where he's comfortable at though, he should immediately go for the clinch, as he excels there and can make use of his wrestling from this position as well.
Lastly, Jon Jones should make sure not too let Reyes land kicks on him too often as Reyes is a great kicker, both technique and power-wise, be it by checking those kicks or stepping out of their range just in time, as Jones has shown a vulnerability to low kicks at times, with Thiago Santos having made the most of this strategy so far.

For Dominick Reyes to take the w, he should first and foremost be aware of his position and the space between him and the cage at all times, as Jones does some of his very best work there, be it by beating up his opponents in the clinch, picking them apart with mostly straight kicks and punches or by taking them down.
Another priority of Reyes has to be to keep moving, with a big emphasis on lateral movement, not necessarily just because he does very well himself there, but also because Jones' furthest reaching and most devastating attacks depend to a large part on opponents moving into range in a straight line.
This is the reason why Jones did obliterate "Rampage" Jackson, while struggling a lot with Alexander Gustafsson in their first bout. Like the aforementioned points it's also very important to not get passive when fighting Jones.
As someone who's exceptional when it comes to picking opponents apart from distance, a passive opponent who waits for Jon to do a mistake (instead of trying to force him to do one) will wait very long and more importantly: lose the fight, since Jones thrives against opponents who're too timid.
Instead, Reyes should keep his usual pace, or at least a comparable one but without exhausting himself, forcing Jones to work and to make mistakes.
Having mentioned it earlier, Jones is relatively vulnerable to getting kicked in the leg, so Reyes should be taking advantage of that, targeting Jones' the whole fight, but he has to be careful, as Reyes wouldn't be the first opponent whose kick gets caught and who gets taken down as a result of it.
Thus, Reyes should kick with lots of force, as Jones obviously will feel way more confident in reaching for a kick when there's not much power behind it.
Since it's an orthodox vs southpaw match up, it additionally would make sense for the "Devastator" to make use of the southpaw double attack, which is mentioned in the beginning of this post, as it's quite effective at times, despite being almost laughably simple - after all, an opponent inside your range has react once you throw a strike at him.
In order to avoid getting hit' by 1-2's once getting closer to Jones, Reyes should of course make use of his head movement, as Jones becomes increasingly dangerous the more he's able to put an opponent off his rhythm.
Generally, but especially in closer ranges, Reyes should keep Jones' guessing with lots of feints and high-low combinations, like Gustafsson did successfully a couple of times in his first fight against Jones back in 2013, as feints are very useful in the whole, but particularly against a fighter like Jon Jones, who's known for recognizing patterns and adapting to them.
In regards to Jones' wrestling, Dominick Reyes needs to be careful and focussed all the time, but this is practically a given - out in the open, the use of sideward movement might come in handy for Reyes, as double leg takedowns are much easier to land on opponents who move mostly back and forth.
Last but not least, Reyes needs to take his chances once they present themselves and this is probably more true in the case of Jon Jones than it is against any other opponent; if Reyes lands a couple of shots on Jon, possibly stunning him, he can by no means allow the light heavyweight champion to recover, as those chances will be extremely rare.

- Closing words -
Jon Jones will be the big favourite against Dominick Reyes and rightfully so. Very rarely a fighter comes along which rules over a division for such a long time, let alone in a manner as dominant as the one Jon Jones has shown over the years. That being said, Dominick Reyes is a very dangerous striker and arguably the worst match up for Jones in a long time.
Who do you have winning and why?

I read it all

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With all these things about Dominick Reyes' striking in mind, let's have a brief look at his grappling:

Ironically that's all Jones will need

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Great thread and breakdown @Ironnik94
You put a lot of effort and thought into this.
Despite how good Jones is, Reyes is a dangerous fight for anyone.

Good stuff.

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Ironically that's all Jones will need

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Great thread and breakdown @Ironnik94
You put a lot of effort and thought into this.
Despite how good Jones is, Reyes is a dangerous fight for anyone.

Good stuff.

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As mentioned earlier in some if my answers, i'd definitely take a wrestling-heavy approach as well.
Reyes TDD is really good imho, but Jones offensive wrestling is insane, so that's a fair suggestion by you.
 
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I did it! No did not read LoL for me
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I'm a little spent now I'm going with Jones because he's my boy and he'll find a way to null Reyes...
 
love this thread, keep up the good work mate ! I got Jones winning by vicious GnP in the 2nd round, I don't see reyes defending the takedowns from the clinch.

Jones's nightmare match up is a fighter with real one punch KO power, same/longer reach, great takedown defense from the clinch, better boxing and strong legs : NOUGANNOU.

Other than that, no one is beating Jones ( prime Ubereem destroys Jones too, but he left this world )
Thanks man!

I think that solid power (like in the case of Reyes) can actually be enough to beat Jones (if used correctly) although insane power almost always helps, at least if it doesn't come at the expense of a very poor gas tank. In regards to the reach, i mostly agree as well, but if a fighter is really good at disguising his movement and closing the distance fast without charging in a perfectly straight line, that fighter might get closer to Jones as Jones wants to as well. Adesanya vs Gastelum was a good example of that, although Adesanya's game is not so much one of disrupting the opponents rhythm like in the case of Jones, when he teeps and oblique kicks the sh*t out of his opponents, as soon as they come closer.
Farily reasonable to assume Jones to dominate the clinch, although i'd say he'll have more trouble doing so against Reyes, as Jones height advantage has helped him a lot there (a thing which he won't have against Reyes, who's exactly as tall).

I agree with Ngannou being potentially very dangerous, although his cardio makes him a little suspect to me. Given his height and reach (almost the same as Jones) and his explosiveness though, that might not matter, especially since Ngannou has an insane chin as well.

I like that you mention Overeem here, i think that even the Overeem of nowadays might cause Jones huge problems, given his size, striking acumen, experience, strength in the clinch and TDD and considering that Jones isn't exactly a hard hitter, his chin might be less of a concern than usually as well.
 
What should you watch out for in Dominick Reyes? (Sorry, no GIFs here)

Movement

Reyes is a big guy that moves well around the octagon and the movement doesn't look "labored", it looks natural. He's pretty young and somewhat experienced, but clearly Jones' is the much more experienced fighter. What I noticed pretty quickly is that Reyes seems to tend to circle to his left, which is towards the power side of a fighter in an orthodox stance. It's not always a bad thing to do, but usually it's better to move away from. You can see this, for example, in his fight against Oezdemir.

That a lot of movement thing plays right in to Jones' strengths as Jon is really good at "controlling you", as in he does things that you want to look out for or move out of the way for, and he already has some nasty stuff waiting for you as you circle away to the "free" direction. This "whole shutting the door" thing becomes more important if Reyes is being pressured and backed to a fence, so there are less options on which direction you can move to.

Striking

As a southpaw fighter, Reyes has two major weapons that he looks to land all the time. His left straight and his left high kick. Well, make it three; he also has a powerful rear leg leg kick that he throws and lands a lot. Reyes can throw that high kick up surprisingly quickly, but often it comes without setting it up. You don't want to take those kicks on your arms, though, so even if it's blocked it will still hurt you.

For what I've seen, he throws his left leg kick well and it lands on the inside of the lead leg on a fighter in a orthodox stance. Sometimes he sets it up with his right hand, sometimes he just fires it. This could be a good weapon against Jones, but we'll see if he gets to land it often. He needs to set it up, mask it with something or just make Jones worry about something else. Sounds difficult (and it is).

All athlete talk aside, Reyes has a fast first step that he could take forwards or backwards as he fires his left hand. I'd say there aren't too many guys that do this as fast and heavy as Dominick, so it's not a surprise he has landed that many times with some good results. It's very hard to land on Jones, because of his reach and his ability to use it and because he's excellent at stopping his opponent in his tracks when they're trying to move in. So this quick first step could be a key on getting in the clean punch and maybe catch Jon as he's trying to stop you from coming at him.

Reyes also has some body kicks and front kicks, both of which he throws with his rear leg. I don't think these will be a key to victory, but it's good to throw the body kick in here and there so it's not always going high.

Grappling

Reyes has wrestled as a kid, but switched to football (hand egg, am i right?) as he got older. He's at a tremendous disadvantage when it comes to wrestling, grappling and clinching. Reyes took care of Weidman, who is a very good wrestler and not THAT small, but everyone and their mother knows that wrestling Jones is a whole another ball game. He's so tall and lanky, yet freakishly strong and has his technique down to a tee.

Dominick likes to use the fence to get up a lot when taken down. He scoots over and starts wall walking his way back to his feet. If I'd have to guess, Jones' team has this all figured out and Jon will make it damn near impossible to get his back against the fence if Jon doesn't want to.

I'd say Dom can't really threaten with submissions as he's a much lesser grappler and Jon won't give him the position to truly attack with something. If Jon chooses to grapple (we have seen him stand with strikers before) Dom will be trying to defend the takedown or look to get up quick if taken down. That's one way to get tired and we'll see if Team Jones will take this path and mix it up.

Reyes has shown the ability to get out of the clinch even when his opponent has his hands clasped together (bodylock) and I doubt he's looking to hang around if they clinch up. Jon will dominate the clinch too, so making some space and trying to escape the clinch will be the way to go. Maybe throw something on the break, an elbow, uppercut or something.

TL;DR

Reyes has some tools to work with when standing with Jones. He's at a substantial disadvantage when it comes to grappling, so he'll need to try and keep it standing. Dominick can dart in quick with his left hand and he has a mean left kick (head, leg, body, in that order) so we'll be looking out for those things. Jones is the best fighter in MMA, ever, to keep you from coming at him, so it will be interesting to see if Dom can actually get to him.

My prediction is that Jones will keep it standing in the first and start the fight a bit more defensively, kick Reyes and prod and poke him (not poke him in the eyes.. or.. actually he could do that, too) and start to work him on the ground in the second. Jones TKO in the 2nd round via GNP. So a W for Jones in a similar fashion to his Gus rematch.

If a man can hope, I hope Reyes finds Jones' chin and makes him flop around the octagon before putting him out. I'd celebrate heavily.
Thank you for the input and sorry for having made a thread about the same topic earlier, i'd like to see yours as a seperate one as well, as you'd get more responses then.

Very good points, i think the fact that it's an orthodox vs southpaw matchup might make this really interesting and potentially exciting in the stand up, given that both fighters are open to each others power side. Striking only, i'd give the advantage to Reyes here though, as he's the faster and more powerful guy. That is of course, if he avoids Jones linear attacks from range.

I like your prediction as well, i'll also be rooting for Reyes, but the consens so far seems to be that Jones' best bet is to win this fight via wrestling/grappling, be it with immediately going for takedowns, or after a few rounds, when Jones can take advantage of his superior gas tank.
 
I did it! No did not read LoL for me
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I'm a little spent now I'm going with Jones because he's my boy and he'll find a way to null Reyes...
Can't force people to read it!

I'd be glad if you'd do it sooner or later though man. :D

What do you think will Jones' gameplan be?
 
Can't force people to read it!

I'd be glad if you'd do it sooner or later though man. :D

What do you think will Jones' gameplan be?

I did read bro that's why I was a little spent, I think Jones does what Jones does nullify his opponents he a
has the ability to get his opponents to fight cautious and become watchers trying to counter or they try to blitz attack him and leave themselves open to counters of elbows or well placed kicks. I saw with Reyes fight real cautious and careful against Volkan and fought to a boring split decision.
Jon is a veteran of the 5round fight taking you into the deep and breaking you down is something he does effectively, efficiently, and strategically. Unless Reyes really takes it to Jon right in the middle of chest get him to fight going backwards Reyes will lose if he allows Jon to pace him and pick his shotz and kicks...
 
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I did read bro that's why I was a little spent
Ah, sorry i forgot what "spent" meant in that case (english is not my first language)
I think Jones does what Jones does nullify his opponents he a
has the ability to get his opponents to fight cautious and become watchers trying to counter or they try to blitz attack him and leave themselves open to counters of elbows or well placed kicks. I saw with Reyes fight real cautious and careful against Volkan and fought to a boring split decision.
Jon is a veteran of the 5round fight taking you into the deep and breaking you down is something he does effectively, efficiently, and strategically. Unless Reyes really takes it to Jon right in the middle of chest get him to fight going backwards Reyes will lose if he allows Jon to pace him and pick his shotz and kicks...
Thanks for the prediction, the difference in cardio will be a thing in Jon's favor for sure, especially with the experience that he's got.
I kinda have to disagree with Reyes generally being cautious though. I mean, he's quite far from being reckless, but he's most of the time someone who really pushes the pace (as you can see in his output/landed strikes/minute), but against Volkan he has had lots of respect for the power of the latter, especially since Oezdemir is quite the good striker himself, he only really falls short if he faces wrestlers, but on the feet he's a hard guy to beat, especially since he has not only got power, but a very solid chin as well.
(This made the difference in his recent win against Rakic, although i had Rakic as the winner).
 
Ah, sorry i forgot what "spent" meant in that case (english is not my first language)
Thanks for the prediction, the difference in cardio will be a thing in Jon's favor for sure, especially with the experience that he's got.
I kinda have to disagree with Reyes generally being cautious though. I mean, he's quite far from being reckless, but he's most of the time someone who really pushes the pace (as you can see in his output/landed strikes/minute), but against Volkan he has had lots of respect for the power of the latter, especially since Oezdemir is quite the good striker himself, he only really falls short if he faces wrestlers, but on the feet he's a hard guy to beat, especially since he has not only got power, but a very solid chin as well.
(This made the difference in his recent win against Rakic, although i had Rakic as the winner).

As I said if he hopes to have any chance against Jon he will need to fight in chest and push him back with that output, I just have a slight feeling the bigness of the moment will cause him to start cautious it's when or if he does break out of it. Again Jon as this uncanny ability to nullify what you do through wrestling or employing those oblique kicks that keep you at picking range and paced to where he wants you...
 
Thanks, I didn't start my own thread as it's pretty much exactly the same topic so I just posted mine here. It's above this one, maybe someone will actually read it.

Do you think you'll do more breakdowns? Maybe on Black Beast vs Latifi? :rolleyes:
Hmm.. i don't see myself making another breakdown as big soon man, with the exception of Tony Khabib maybe/probably. <{silvanormal}>
 
As I said if he hopes to have any chance against Jon he will need to fight in chest and push him back with that output, I just have a slight feeling the bigness of the moment will cause him to start cautious it's when or if he does break out of it. Again Jon as this uncanny ability to nullify what you do through wrestling or employing those oblique kicks that keep you at picking range and paced to where he wants you...
Absolutely man. Reyes needs to avoid these kicks by Jon. Be it by countering them or by making it difficult for Jones to land them in the first place.
 
Thank you for the input and sorry for having made a thread about the same topic earlier, i'd like to see yours as a seperate one as well, as you'd get more responses then.

Very good points, i think the fact that it's an orthodox vs southpaw matchup might make this really interesting and potentially exciting in the stand up, given that both fighters are open to each others power side. Striking only, i'd give the advantage to Reyes here though, as he's the faster and more powerful guy. That is of course, if he avoids Jones linear attacks from range.

I like your prediction as well, i'll also be rooting for Reyes, but the consens so far seems to be that Jones' best bet is to win this fight via wrestling/grappling, be it with immediately going for takedowns, or after a few rounds, when Jones can take advantage of his superior gas tank.
Thanks, I read your whole first post earlier and I agreed on a lot.

Jones usually fights in a orthodox but he switches stances too. I was trying to remember if he headkicked DC with his lead leg but he actually fought as a southpaw there and kicked him with his rear leg (still his left leg). They had watched tape on Cormier that he tends to duck and dip to his right and Jon capitalized perfectly.

So it’ll be interesting to see if Jon will switch stances and try to confuse Reyes there.

I also think a striking fight is the one fight Reyes could win, but Jones has some killer knees, elbows and kicks. Front kicks, body and head kicks, oblique kicks... The guy is terrible fighter to be standing in front of.

Anyway thanks for the thoughts on this fight and the fighters. Always good to read something in here with some actual thought behind it. Not just Conor this, Conor that, who’s posting what on instagram, who’s earning what kind of money...

<GinJuice>
 
I just have a feeling Reyes is gonna do what Smith and Gustaffon v2 did and freeze up when it matters. Santos isn't as good as Reyes, but he makes up for his shortcomings in being ferocious and fearless, he knew his only hope was to swing hammers and he had some joy.
 
Thanks, I read your whole first post earlier and I agreed on a lot.

Jones usually fights in a orthodox but he switches stances too. I was trying to remember if he headkicked DC with his lead leg but he actually fought as a southpaw there and kicked him with his rear leg (still his left leg). They had watched tape on Cormier that he tends to duck and dip to his right and Jon capitalized perfectly.

So it’ll be interesting to see if Jon will switch stances and try to confuse Reyes there.

I also think a striking fight is the one fight Reyes could win, but Jones has some killer knees, elbows and kicks. Front kicks, body and head kicks, oblique kicks... The guy is terrible fighter to be standing in front of.

Anyway thanks for the thoughts on this fight and the fighters. Always good to read something in here with some actual thought behind it. Not just Conor this, Conor that, who’s posting what on instagram, who’s earning what kind of money...

<GinJuice>
My pleasure man!

Yeah, Jones sometimes switches stances, although i'd not describe him as your typical switch stance fighter. It was the perfect move against Cormier for the reasons you've mentioned, and for this reason southpaw vs orthodox is always a matchup where the likelihood of such a scenario is relatively high.
After all, ducking to your open side is not only what's helpful against another orthodox fighter, but it's a slightly more natural movement than ducking into the opposite direction as well.

Jones switching stances might be interesting in that fight, that's true, although Reyes would then probably just go for the outside leg kick on Jones' left leg, instead of going for the inside leg kick to Jones' right leg.
Of course, it'll change other things as well, but since leg kicks are probably one of Reyes' main tacticts, i just thought about that.

Jones stand up is not to be underestimated, he's really an uncomfortable to fight opponent in that regard, if that makes sense.

Yup, the amount of some of these threads you've mentioned made it quite annoying at times, although some of them or the responses to them are fun to read at times haha.
 
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