Jon Jones, the potential

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  1. Crotch Buster

    Crotch Buster White Belt

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    Now that its clear Jon wasn't jucing, imagine if he had the testosterone of a average male. I mean he took Cormier down like 5 times, if he had testosterone levels of someone like Adam Levine he prob could have doubled that number. Just saying guys, maybe trt wasn't such a bad idea.
     
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    It's not clear, his post fight test has yet to be revealed
     
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    What have I missed?
     
  5. bigconan

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    I think what people are failing or are too stupid to grasp is, a fighter in the midst of an extremely intense training camp, with high levels of extreme cardio, and whatever else type of t raining Jones' does, is going to effect his testosterone levels. I guarantee, if you check his test levels a couple of months after his fight and compare it to his in training camp results, the difference would be huge.

    Also, remember, depending on what type of testosterone ester jones' or someone else might have been using, can be totally out of the system at different times. but being that Jones' was tested randomly, and those tests show that no outside testosterone was used, the only explanation for his low test levels are what I said in the first paragraph..
     
  6. djacobox372

    djacobox372 Gold Belt

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    Just imagine that instead of partying and doing coke all night, Jon actually was disciplined and training.

    DC should be thankful for Jones' lack of maturity and discipline, he's still breathing because of it.
     
  7. O rly. It's that common.

    Why is it in all of drug tests that have been done, this is so common that this has only happened now in 2014.
     
  8. iwannabeadored

    iwannabeadored Blue Belt

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    Except science has already done studies on this and proven what you said to be false.

    He had low T:E ratios and testosterone levels consistent with cycling on peds. Lance armstrong passed every test known to man. Because the science hasn't caught up doesn't mean jones hasn't juiced. To wash away those results because nothing turned up is comical


    I personally believe they should allow PEDs. I have no problem with it.
     
  9. bigconan

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    Well, nowadays, these sort of reports are becoming much accessed by reports and various sites. Before, it probably never was. But, if it was shown that jones' was taking in outside testosterone, then what other explanation can there be?
     
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    You obviously have no idea what you are talking about
     
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    I think that maybe you're too stupid to realize that if that was true then we would have seen hundreds of other fighters with low T levels like this before
     
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    I know they said the results were clean but I am still curious as to why his levels were so damn low.
     
  13. bigconan

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    Given the fact I have been involved in bodybuilding for over 20 years, I firmly disagree. I most certainly know what can cause a low testosterone reading. I realize some people on this forum are not used to people actually knowing what they're talking about. Cause most are 15 year old kids...
     
  14. MartyMcFry

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    But what about without coke power?
     
  15. Rittsy

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    We'll probably get a few explanations in the next week.
     
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    Strange to say he hasn't been juicing. Coke is probably one of the most efficient peds in full contact and reaction sports. Better than most musclebuilding drugs. No pain, very clear mind, increased reactiontime by a mile, and you can actually be hit straight on the chin, and while your knees might buckle, your head is still completely clear. Confidence and concentration will e on top even when hurt.

    Cocaine is very popular in kickboxing and reactionsports like tennis. Would be strange if it is not widely used in MMA.

    Then again, I am positive Jones is not the only one doing coke to perform better, so he is not necesarily a cheater, but he is using PEDs.
     
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    This. Given that DC's tests also showed incredibly low levels at 0.4 it's likely that whatever caused them was hard training combined with the hard partying lifestyle.

    You ever see Guillard vs Stevenson? THAT is how a fighter on Coke performs, not this mythical superfighter you're talking about.

    Funny you should mention this since DC ALSO had this very same issue with his T:E ratios.
     
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    You obviously took coke to react to your keyboard faster to make this post. Jesus christ I've just been trolled.
     
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  20. thobra

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    The effects are widely known in full contact sports. Since you are such a specialist, I am sure you have had a fight with coke, and without, so you can tell me your experience?
     

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