Jon Jones is not the best fighter,LH division does not have many great talents

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  1. Glnick

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    http://www.ufc.com/rankings Check out the rankings in LH division
    #6 Dan Henderson a guy who is close to retirement and I think he does not have anything more to offer
    #8 Mauricio Rua ,Shogun is not in his prime and he is getting worse and worse in my opinion
    #9 Channel Sonnen ,he is like the mascot of ufc and he just fights to fight.
    Now before you say anything check out how talented the BW ,FW,WW divisions are and compare them and make your own concussion
     
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    Shut up. Ironically, people said the same thing when BJ penn, Matt Hughes and GSP were dominating in their day. And by people I mean haters.
     
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    I would agree to a point now, but you fail to factor in when Jones came up those guys were a lot better. Im not even a fan of Jones but lhw was a shark tank when he begun his run.

    Edit: look at what people used to say about mw when Silva was dominating, now its a row of killers. There is a reason people think the lw division is stacked and full of talent, 50% of it is probably because the title changes hands so much. A dominant champion tends to make people think that the division is weak
     
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    Jones never fought Hendo
     
  5. Glnick

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    I don't think that other divisions are weak ,I am saying the opposite
     
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    Jones can't control the quality of division, and having Cormier and Gustuffson as top contenders sounds like a tough way to protect the belt to me. He has destroyed nearly everyone he's fought, so he is still the best fighter in the world to me!
     
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    Im saying a dominant champion makes a division look weak.
     
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    Jones would kill Hendo! To old and slow, and all Hendo does is try to land his right hand. He has become one of the most one dimensional and predictable fighters in the UFC. Still good, but predictable.
     
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    I guess that's true. I mean it's full of stiffs like Gustaffson and Cormier.

    Jones is the best fighter in the world. Get over it. Besides, the talent in the division currently has no bearing on that.

    Jones is also the reason Machida went cowering to middleweight.
     
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    RoninJin Holla At Me If You Like My Avatar

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    Another thread discrediting Jones accomplishment, nice.

    How bout Beatings guys like Machida, Bader, Shogun, Gus , Glover
     
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    Cormeir beat Hendo. Calm down.
     
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    #1 Jon Jones (P4P best fighter in the world)
    #2 Alexander Gustaffson (Fought Jones to a draw basically)
    #3 Daniel Cormier (undefeated and good enough to fight for the HW title)
    #4 Anthony "Rumble" Johnson (Just wooped the Phil Davis, the #4 LWH and looks unstoppable)
    #5 Rashad Evans (past champion, has been injured but looked great against Sonnen)
    #6 Glover Texeira (great fighter, a fighter Jones couldn't finish)

    I dunno, thats pretty stacked as far as a top 6. Like I've said and many others have, its top heavy, but the top 6 are great.
     
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    LHW division is at an all time low. Too many old veterans who are still beating prospects on chin and power. Big gap between the elite and those who can't get past Shogun, Hendo, Lil Nog etc.
     
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    Haters gonna hate
     
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    All time low? All time HIGH with great talent. Maybe not in terms of names like Chuck, Rampage, Forest, Randy etc, but the division is very stacked with talent, at least in the top 6.
     
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    erm

    Gustafusson

    Anthony Johnson

    Glover Teixiera

    Daniel Cormier

    Phil Davis

    Rashad Evans

    Ovince St Preux

    it ain't that bad agree not the same but still a decent roster of killers
     
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    You are better than everyone else and the best opponent Jones will face TS, and you will be Jones easiest opponent. Eye poke, Jones automatic win while you cry. "Eye poke, Eye poke." Nobody give a fuck about you.
     
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    He is the GOAT, stop hating.
     
  19. Dman4Life8017

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    The problem is, is that people look at the division AFTER the champion has beaten them, instead of the state of it when the fights occur. Let's break down the LHW division fight by fight as they happened and where the opponent was in their career, as opposed to where they are NOW. I'm not gonna include the Glover fight since we just saw that and I assume is fresh in everyone's minds. I'm gonna start with Ryan Bader.


    Ryan Bader - Time of fight: UFC 126 2/5/2011 - Ryan Bader was 12-0 coming into the fight with Jon Jones. Jon Jones was coming off a TKO Victory against Vladamir Matyushenko but hadn't fought in 7 1/2 months leading up to this fight. Ryan Bader had won TUF over Vinny Magalh
     
  20. EliteLurker

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    DC, Evans, Gus, Rumble, and Glover are all very very good.
     

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