John McCarthy Inserts Himself Into Eye Poking Controversy by Proposing The Jon Jones Rule

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Do you support the new rule proposed to deal with eye poking?

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  1. ReadWrite

    ReadWrite Red Belt Platinum Member

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    LAS VEGAS — Two potential MMA rules changes with particular interest to fans will be voted on Tuesday by the Association of Boxing Commissions (ABC) body.

    The MMA rules and regulations committee presented proposed rule alterations regarding the definition of a grounded fighter and the reduction of eye pokes Monday at the 28th annual ABC Conference here at the Monte Carlo Resort and Casino. Longtime official John McCarthy spoke for the committee.

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    With eye pokes a hot topic lately, as well as a dangerous part of MMA, the rules and regulation committee is proposing a rule that states a fighter can be called for a foul if he or she is advancing with fingers extended toward the face of an opponent.

    Referees will be instructed to clearly communicate this to fighters, much like the foul for grabbing onto the cage. Fighters will be told to close their fists or point their fingers in the air. A fighter who is warned multiple times can have a point taken — like any other foul — if he or she continues to move forward with fingers outstretched.

    More new rules...

    http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/8/1...ition-of-grounded-fighter-new-foul-to-address
     
  2. BoosieBoo

    BoosieBoo Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Please Lord let it actually be called the Jon Jones rule
     
  3. flowers tiger

    flowers tiger Green Belt

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    A point could be taken already but the refs just don't do it

    This won't change anything unless the refs don't start taking points off
     
  4. Dorkman

    Dorkman Red Belt

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    You know he'd have a legal team try and get rid of that if they tried to actually dub it that. Defamation of character or some shit like that. But yeah, would be pretty LOLworthy.
     
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  5. Zefram Cochrane

    Zefram Cochrane Red belt in warp theory and practice.

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    nailed it
     
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  6. Elmonstro1

    Elmonstro1 Bones Nose

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    TLDR: Big John proposes that a foul or warning should be given if a fighter leads with his fingers forward or strikers with his fingers forward. Essentially taking out the part of the fingers coming in contact with any opponents eye before receiving a warning.
     
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  7. ExitLUPin

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    It comes down to the refs and almost none enforce it properly. Even with this minor change a fighter still has an incentive to use one freebie eyepoke.

    They should be warned BACKSTAGE and before the fight starts when the two fighters are in the cage.

    First eyepoke, and point taken away.

    With a fence grab i feel thats more instinctual so warning, then immediate point deduction on a 2nd attempt or further.
     
  8. TheHermit

    TheHermit Purple Belt

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    if we call it that often enough it will stay like tattoo and none of his legal team can do sh*t. jon jone rule is born!
     
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  9. TheChance

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    I'm kinda suprised that one asswipe sherdogger hasnt voted no yet
     
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  10. BokaBokte

    BokaBokte Brown Belt

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    Just take the point right at first poke. Problem solved.
     
  11. ilfirin

    ilfirin Silver Belt

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    Came here to say exactly this. I would also accept the 'Jonathan Dwight Jones rule'.
     
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  12. Jkaylor

    Jkaylor Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Exactly. Can we get this man to represent Sherdog at these type of meetings in the future ffs
     
  13. ArtOfDrowning

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    How is this any different than the current rules? Warn them multiple times? But that is what they are doing now. I don't get it.

    Rule needs to be: First eye poke - point takes away. Why? Because fighters already talked to the ref before the fight and clearly heard ref telling them to keep their hands closed. You don't want to keep your hand closed? Fine, then you lose a point. How many times does a grown man/woman needs to hear a rule? Until someone lose an eye. Fuck that. Ref explained you the rules before the fight, you didn't play by the rules - point takes away.

    Yes first few months a lot of fighters will lose points but I bet you in 6 months all of them will keep their fucking hands closed at all time knowning they will lose a point if they don't . Now they know there is free 1 or 2 eye pokes before ref reacts and by that time damage is already done. Thats why its happening. They need to punish them and then fighters will stop doing it. Simple at that.
     
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  14. FlyingKimurabar

    FlyingKimurabar Silver Belt

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    Damn 17-0. Don't think I've ever seen a sherdog poll go like this.
     
  15. TrainInVain

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    I liked the recent fights BJM was telling fighters to keep their hands closed. I hate the open handed pawing that occurs over and over and starts looking like patty cake.
     
  16. James Baller

    James Baller Black Belt Double Yellow Card

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    You don't take a point away for an accidental foul. (If the official rules it an accidental foul, of course.)
     
  17. Tito’s Juice Box

    Tito’s Juice Box Let’s get smashed.

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    I can picture Big John in the ring, holding a fighters wrist after the eye poke, and signaling to the judges, "one point for the Jones Jab"
     
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  18. JSN

    JSN Bitch Lasagna

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    Big Fat John is just trying to take credit for some shit that can already be penalized.
     
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  19. Lanx

    Lanx 房仕龍 Double Yellow Card

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    Refs aren't going to do shit.

    Cheating champs will just get away with it.

    Especially JJ, b/c she's a girl, she can't hurt no one!!!
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    You can actually see her DIG into Claudias skull looking for polish treasure! or would it be brazillian treasure?

    either way, she's nastier than Jones and has never been called out on her shit.
     
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  20. awymore

    awymore Brown Belt

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    Awesome news about the eye pokes. Wish they would allow knees to head of grounded opponent if they are going to change the rules.
     

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