Joe NoBrain "I'm revising my thinking about this virus."

Italy’s leaders literally made February 1st hug a chinese person day, lol. Just to show they weren’t afraid of the corona virus and that Hey weren’t racist. Highest cases and deaths other than China is Italy. Talk about not taking it seriously, these mayors or whatever in Italy, they need to hang for these, probably hugged asymptomatic Chinese people and spread it to grandma and grandpa.
 
Explain to me what "if" means to you.

"If" for me means huge emergency works by public health care professionals, backed up by social distancing by the population, and massive government support.
That should get the US numbers well under the potential 11 million.

You are the one who suggested that nothing is done to check the virus because other things kill people too.

Please show me where I suggested zero checking, TY
 
Think more in terms of - once a business closes, it typically stays closed. Now imagine 20% of the work force is unemployed. Now imagine they all need rent and food money at the same time. Money is the lifeblood of modern society. Without it you become like this:

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Imagine those 20% came together and worked with the other 80% to repair and overcome the challenges ...

You know like in the great depression and famines of the past?? Lol...

The human spirit is what over comes real problems not money...money is made up concept that could lose value at any point like the currencies of the past
 
My brother is a communicable disease specialist, corona virus is common, covid 19 is different, you can have it with zero symptoms for 14 days or longer, carriers, some people get it and it’s just a normal flu, it sucks but you’ll live, yes you can fight viral infection with antibodies and malaria drugs, quinine is an old school malaria drug, the British were ahead of the curve when it comes to that, same thing with putting lime in everything. Anyway. It’s not really a big deal when you factor in that acute people with covid 19 are very rare, ya kno the one who have to be put on ventilators and have fluid in their lungs. It even happens to young people, but the average age that it kills is 85. What they hoped was that covid 19 would just have blended in with our normal flus, well sadly it didn’t because it’s very different than other viruses, the asymptomatic carriers, to someone with a light cough and low grade fever, to the ones it affects most who feel like their drowning with their own lungs...hydroxychlroquine and z packs are working. But for no reason do you take these drugs without a doctors approval like that idiot who drank the fish tank cleaner. Chloroquine will kill you, 250mg is the max dose to take, while 2 grams can kill you, meaning if you take 8 pills, you can die, where as with other meds, you can probably eat 12 pills of Tylenol and just get a stomach ache. They use it to treat RA. Among other things, Z pack is a potent anti biotic, you can fight viruses with anti biotics, it’s not the anti biotics fighting the virus, it’s your own body’s immune system, the antibiotics are just like an auxiliary force, because it leaves a lot of bacteria in its wake when you’re fighting a virus. The media and social media have over hyped it and that has only hurt our country. People with runny noses are going to ERs and urgent cares across the world thinking they have covid 19 and are gonna die.

China fucked up, they knew about it in November, we found out about it in December, Trump wanted to close flights from China in January but the cdc and trumps opposition said no, too premature, so it happened anyway but later in February. The ugly face of partisan politics really hurt us, they think everything the president does is racist and or anti immigrant, well my family are immigrants ourselves. Trump tried to prevent this outbreak sooner, but it was a bit too late, we need stronger borders. We also need flight screening from foreign countries, but like I said, the asymptomatic carrier, someone from China probably came here feeling fine, but had. Covid 19. That’s the biggest issue with this virus. The asymptomatic carriers. They can spread it to someone with a shitty immune system or the elderly and it’s a death sentence.

A lot of people die from influenza a year, I think 18,000 have already died from influenza this year. Covid 19 is a bad flu that can turn pneumonia. 2020, will have the highest flu deaths in a long while, thanks to covid 19. China really screwed the pooch on this one. They were secretive until it was too late. I feel bad for Italy, if wanna talk someone who didn’t take it seriously, look no further than Italy.
Great post. I think the number of flu deaths is even higher than that estimate.
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What I’m saying is that you are comparing actual numbers with projected hypothetical ones..And then drawing a conclusion that the hypothetical situation is more dangerous and has a greater cause for concern...

No. What you are saying is COVID19 is less of a public health threat in 2020 than obesity + driving while texting.
What's the rationale to back that up.
 
Senator Rand Paul, tested positive, feels fine, Idris Elba, tested positive also feels fine. That’s dangerous to who they can infect, hence the 15 day lock down, if everyone with covid 19 had the same symptoms, it would be easy to detect and isolate. Also the test is very expensive. The average Joe won’t get tested because too expensive, not only do you have to have symptoms, but they better be severe. Then you’ll get tested. We shouldn’t be fearful, but we should respect the 15 day distancing. They are most likely going to extend the 15 day period in place like NYC, Seattle, LA, etc. but other parts of the country, ya know, the parts where they make our food. They should be good to go. They talked about it today, we can’t treat one sector the same, also, NYC always gets it the worst. From 9/11 to this. I live in La, it’s been crazy here but it’s slowing down. Difference between LA and NYC, la is spread out, while nyc is crazy concentrated.
good points. I live in a Norcal county of 1.1 million ppl with 71 confirmed cases and 1 death so far.
not too bad tbh. numbers are no doubt higher but except for some hot spots in the country, this thing will run it's course and die out.
(My opinion of course)
 
Oh yeah the 18,000 number was from a few weeks ago, this is more current
Yeah, the top pic is over 2 weeks old so the number can only go up from there. Bottom pic is worldwide statistics as of today (for perspective).
 
Hot take.

I imagine if Trump said that, he base would LUUUV it.

Seriously though, where is the point of diminishing return in this whole mess............?

That is...to be determined.
Exactly.
 
Senator Rand Paul, tested positive, feels fine, Idris Elba, tested positive also feels fine. That’s dangerous to who they can infect, hence the 15 day lock down, if everyone with covid 19 had the same symptoms, it would be easy to detect and isolate. Also the test is very expensive. The average Joe won’t get tested because too expensive, not only do you have to have symptoms, but they better be severe. Then you’ll get tested. We shouldn’t be fearful, but we should respect the 15 day distancing. They are most likely going to extend the 15 day period in place like NYC, Seattle, LA, etc. but other parts of the country, ya know, the parts where they make our food. They should be good to go. They talked about it today, we can’t treat one sector the same, also, NYC always gets it the worst. From 9/11 to this. I live in La, it’s been crazy here but it’s slowing down. Difference between LA and NYC, la is spread out, while nyc is crazy concentrated.

Yup tons don't even know they have it. Up to 60%.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00822-x

"As coronavirus outbreaks surge worldwide, research teams are racing to understand a crucial epidemiological puzzle — what proportion of infected people have mild or no symptoms and might be passing the virus on to others. Some of the first detailed estimates of these covert cases suggest that they could represent some 60% of all infections."
 
Imagine those 20% came together and worked with the other 80% to repair and overcome the challenges ...

You know like in the great depression and famines of the past?? Lol...

The human spirit is what over comes real problems not money...money is made up concept that could lose value at any point like the currencies of the past

Come together how? Start new businesses? Those other 80% are going to be busy holding together their own lives.

I don't know about you but I don't pay my mortgage or buy food with human spirit. I hear they have plenty of that in San Francisco though.
 
I have a friend who had a panic attack. spent all fucking week inside. looking at all the terror stories. worked themselves up into such a frenzy they were crying and called 911. They convinced themselves they had the virus. Had all the symptoms of Corona. Sweaty hot flashes. Dizzy. High fever that comes and goes. super tight throat and pain in chest. Felt disoriented and confused. Aches and pains. This is also a typical hardcore panik attack symptoms.

paramedics showed up and basically just talked to them and confirmed it was indeed a high stress panic attack. Its happenin all over the world . All because of our terror loving media. sure there is some really bad cases. But there is way more good ones to focus on then bad. Way more people don't get this bad at all. Don't worry about it. Stay in. Don't lick toilets or share doobies. but don't fuking kill youselves and lose you mind over this.

Don't stress to much guys. try not to watch to much chaos. Play games. Watch old fights. movies. call family and friends and talk. don't let this bullshit band wagon horror shit from rogan and the lot of usual suspects terrorize you in fear. Anxiety can tear you apart. Smile a lot. Be positive. Try to laugh. don't spend all day watching and reading corona stuff. Can really fuck with our minds. we are only human after all.

Yes it sucks. but don't let it consume you. Be safe and healthy.
 
No. What you are saying is COVID19 is less of a public health threat in 2020 than obesity + driving while texting.
What's the rationale to back that up.

I give up, my rational is the actual numbers compared to your guess of what the statistics might be ..

Each day, 11 teens die in crashes caused by texting and driving. 2.35 million people in the US are injured or disabled by car crashes every year. More than 330,000 of these crashes that cause severe injury are caused by texting and driving.Feb 19, 2019
 
good points. I live in a Norcal county of 1.1 million ppl with 71 confirmed cases and 1 death so far.
not too bad tbh. numbers are no doubt higher but except for some hot spots, this thing will run it's course and die out.
(My opinion of course)
Oh yeah it’s nothing to be afraid of, but I am a bit concerned over asymptomatic people and re-infection seems to be high for those who beat it. It’s highly contagious but honestly, most people suffer mild or just your basic flu symptoms. H1N1 was way more lethal but not as contagious, H1N1 killed 12,500 people in the Us. I think this will probably kill around the same, mostly elderly people, while H1N1 was killing people in their 40’s, 50’s. Yet just a footnote in history. It was 2009, not that long ago. People weren’t panicked then. But between mainstream media, a mainstream media that hates the president and social media, ya know dudes posting videos of China welding ppl into their homes and people seizsuring in their bubble beds, that freaked ppl out. When the media like you, like they did with Obama it’s easier to quell the panic before it starts, they’ll cover for him. Meanwhile, our media today, “Mr president are you equipped to handle the 11 million body bags needed to contain this pandemic?”
 
Nice appeal to emotion, but that doesn't negate his point.

Just because a decision is the hard one, doesn't mean it isn't the right decision.

I am not trying to appeal to emotion as I have nothing to gain from it. I am just saying it was nice knowing you if you or your family dies from it because there is simply no way to avoid this at all. No way at all.

Enjoy the after life. No big deal if Telford90 or one of his family members do die
 
I've had it, it's not great, most of the real symptoms they don't tell you about.......

Mouth ulcers, loads of them.
Your throat swells up and you will find it hard to breath or eat.

The other ones they tell you are true. It does have a strange low grade fever that comes and goes for days on end, your body will feel seriously fatigued, the cough and tightening of the chest did not start till day 8.
 
Destroying the global economy is not worth saving 2 million lives.

It actually is. Human life is valued at $9 million dollars a life in the USA. The math adds up to $18,000,000,000,000. The world GDP per year is maybe around $90,000,000,000. You could close down all non essential things for 10 years and it would still be worth it.
 
I have a friend who had a panic attack. spent all fucking week inside. looking at all the terror stories. worked themselves up into such a frenzy they were crying and called 911. They convinced themselves they had the virus. Had all the symptoms of Corona. Sweaty hot flashes. Dizzy. High fever that comes and goes. super tight throat and pain in chest. Felt disoriented and confused. Aches and pains. This is also a typical hardcore panik attack symptoms.

paramedics showed up and basically just talked to them and confirmed it was indeed a high stress panic attack. Its happenin all over the world . All because of our terror loving media. sure there is some really bad cases. But there is way more good ones to focus on then bad. Way more people don't get this bad at all. Don't worry about it. Stay in. Don't lick toilets or share doobies. but don't fuking kill youselves and lose you mind over this.

Don't stress to much guys. try not to watch to much chaos. Play games. Watch old fights. movies. call family and friends and talk. don't let this bullshit band wagon horror shit from rogan and the lot of usual suspects terrorize you in fear. Anxiety can tear you apart. Smile a lot. Be positive. Try to laugh. don't spend all day watching and reading corona stuff. Can really fuck with our minds. we are only human after all.

Yes it sucks. but don't let it consume you. Be safe and healthy.
The fear and panic is the worst thing about this virus, tell your friend you’re more likely to die from just about anything else. Car accidents are number 1 in unnatural deaths, yet I bet your friend drives, a lot. Turn off the tv, watch reruns of your favorite show. I’m binge watching the simpsons on Disney+ and I gotta say anything post season 10, the show really dropped off, and there are 31 seasons? I’m on season 15 and it’s feeling like a chore at this point.
 
Think more in terms of - once a business closes, it typically stays closed. Now imagine 20% of the work force is unemployed. Now imagine they all need rent and food money at the same time. Money is the lifeblood of modern society. Without it you become like this:

akron's-tent-city3cd37d78fcc661ab9afdff0000724a5f.jpg

A lot of companies still working from home, I am. Almost everyone I know is still working remotely.
As for unemployment, that's what a strong social net is for.

Businesses go under all the time, new, better ones spring up. 50% of all US business fail within the first 5 years. Innovative business are switching to remote/delivery models. Adapt and innovate or die, that's the capitalist way.

Consumer demand is depressed now but people will be spending even more to make up for lost time, the ones that survive will capitalize.
 
If you don't think it's an extremely worrying virus at this point you're clinically braindead

Even today in England the police are having to break up neighbourhoods having BBQ's, all this virus is really doing is exposing how many idiots live around you
We might just have to lock them out there and let them die, if they persist.

Insert Dolph/Drago meme
 
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