Joe NoBrain "I'm revising my thinking about this virus."

People still aren't getting it

Not getting the seriousness of this shit or not getting covid? I know 4 people personally who have it 1 of which is in severe condition. Cases are damn doubling every week where I'm at.

And doctors are saying even young patients who survive end up with permanent lung damage, even if they were healthy before.

Take this shit seriously. The sooner everyone takes it seriously, the sooner we can go out again

They studied cases of people who recovered and showed that like 4 out of the 12 studied lost up to 20-30% of lung function. That's winded walking up the stairs tier cardio.
 
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Do you think the system can handle 400k patients who need intensive care

1st That's off that's the global figure....

2nd of all the 400k is the total number of cases, of which only a small fraction are hospitalized, of which only a small fraction of require ICU.

In America. " report noted that half of 121 cases admitted to intensive care units were adults younger than 65. "

Yes I believe America is capable handling 121 cases...
 
Maybe one of those lives might be yours or your family. It was nice knowing you.
Nice appeal to emotion, but that doesn't negate his point.

Just because a decision is the hard one, doesn't mean it isn't the right decision.
 
Death rate down to 1.4% from over 3%

56 % of all new cases in the country coming out of the NY Metro area.

They're fucked.
 
My brother is a communicable disease specialist, corona virus is common, covid 19 is different, you can have it with zero symptoms for 14 days or longer, carriers, some people get it and it’s just a normal flu, it sucks but you’ll live, yes you can fight viral infection with antibodies and malaria drugs, quinine is an old school malaria drug, the British were ahead of the curve when it comes to that, same thing with putting lime in everything. Anyway. It’s not really a big deal when you factor in that acute people with covid 19 are very rare, ya kno the one who have to be put on ventilators and have fluid in their lungs. It even happens to young people, but the average age that it kills is 85. What they hoped was that covid 19 would just have blended in with our normal flus, well sadly it didn’t because it’s very different than other viruses, the asymptomatic carriers, to someone with a light cough and low grade fever, to the ones it affects most who feel like their drowning with their own lungs...hydroxychlroquine and z packs are working. But for no reason do you take these drugs without a doctors approval like that idiot who drank the fish tank cleaner. Chloroquine will kill you, 250mg is the max dose to take, while 2 grams can kill you, meaning if you take 8 pills, you can die, where as with other meds, you can probably eat 12 pills of Tylenol and just get a stomach ache. They use it to treat RA. Among other things, Z pack is a potent anti biotic, you can fight viruses with anti biotics, it’s not the anti biotics fighting the virus, it’s your own body’s immune system, the antibiotics are just like an auxiliary force, because it leaves a lot of bacteria in its wake when you’re fighting a virus. The media and social media have over hyped it and that has only hurt our country. People with runny noses are going to ERs and urgent cares across the world thinking they have covid 19 and are gonna die.

China fucked up, they knew about it in November, we found out about it in December, Trump wanted to close flights from China in January but the cdc and trumps opposition said no, too premature, so it happened anyway but later in February. The ugly face of partisan politics really hurt us, they think everything the president does is racist and or anti immigrant, well my family are immigrants ourselves. Trump tried to prevent this outbreak sooner, but it was a bit too late, we need stronger borders. We also need flight screening from foreign countries, but like I said, the asymptomatic carrier, someone from China probably came here feeling fine, but had. Covid 19. That’s the biggest issue with this virus. The asymptomatic carriers. They can spread it to someone with a shitty immune system or the elderly and it’s a death sentence.

A lot of people die from influenza a year, I think 18,000 have already died from influenza this year. Covid 19 is a bad flu that can turn pneumonia. 2020, will have the highest flu deaths in a long while, thanks to covid 19. China really screwed the pooch on this one. They were secretive until it was too late. I feel bad for Italy, if wanna talk someone who didn’t take it seriously, look no further than Italy.
 
Got any stats? I am aware that there are examples of seemingly healthy people getting damage (including lung damage) but am not sure what kind of percentages we are talking about in terms of how bad it is

Pretty sure all the talk of permanent damage is just related to the fact that anyone who develops pneumonia is also at risk for fibrosis (a build up of scar tissue) of the lungs. There is nothing unique or special about coronavirus in that regard, it is just like most viruses that inhabit respiratory tract, it can confuse immune system into attacking healthy protective lining in the lungs exposing them to bacteria which leads to pneumonia and (sometimes progressively fatal) pulmonary fibrosis. Influenza can do the same thing. If it stays in upper respiratory tract you are fine, if it moves lower prepare for hell.
 
And doctors are saying even young patients who survive end up with permanent lung damage, even if they were healthy before.

Pneumonia almost always leaves a permanent mark, just like everything in our bodies, when it heals, it gets scarred. It's called fibrosis.

Don't listen to quacks.
 
I prefer to listen to a doctor on the subject. Dr. Drew is trying to remain down to earth about it. We'll see if things change but as of last week, Drew is pissed about the media blowing this thing to shit for clicks.

His opinion starts the show.

I’ve met dr drew in person and he’s a good guy, didn’t rush me, or blow me off. He is legit down to earth and he’s right.
 
Here I go again, probably going to regret it..Obesity, Drug addiction, Driving while texting..These are the real threats to life. Our society accepts these epidemics as part of our culture..Now here comes something new that we are unfamiliar with, that will cost far fewer lives, so let’s crash the economy..

If the fear mongers don’t see that something is radically wrong with this picture they never will...I’m still waiting to hear directly or even remotely about someone who has tested positive..

US obesity related deaths estimated at 300'000 per year. COVID19 estimated deaths (if unchecked) in US up to 11 million.
 
Why are people that hate Joe Rogan so obsessed with talking about him?
 
US obesity related deaths estimated at 300'000 per year. COVID19 estimated deaths (if unchecked) in US up to 11 million.

“If “
an asteroid hits in the USA the deaths will be in the millions..
 
My brother is a communicable disease specialist, corona virus is common, covid 19 is different, you can have it with zero symptoms for 14 days or longer, carriers, some people get it and it’s just a normal flu, it sucks but you’ll live, yes you can fight viral infection with antibodies and malaria drugs, quinine is an old school malaria drug, the British were ahead of the curve when it comes to that, same thing with putting lime in everything. Anyway. It’s not really a big deal when you factor in that acute people with covid 19 are very rare, ya kno the one who have to be put on ventilators and have fluid in their lungs. It even happens to young people, but the average age that it kills is 85. What they hoped was that covid 19 would just have blended in with our normal flus, well sadly it didn’t because it’s very different than other viruses, the asymptomatic carriers, to someone with a light cough and low grade fever, to the ones it affects most who feel like their drowning with their own lungs...hydroxychlroquine and z packs are working. But for no reason do you take these drugs without a doctors approval like that idiot who drank the fish tank cleaner. Chloroquine will kill you, 250mg is the max dose to take, while 2 grams can kill you, meaning if you take 8 pills, you can die, where as with other meds, you can probably eat 12 pills of Tylenol and just get a stomach ache. They use it to treat RA. Among other things, Z pack is a potent anti biotic, you can fight viruses with anti biotics, it’s not the anti biotics fighting the virus, it’s your own body’s immune system, the antibiotics are just like an auxiliary force, because it leaves a lot of bacteria in its wake when you’re fighting a virus. The media and social media have over hyped it and that has only hurt our country. People with runny noses are going to ERs and urgent cares across the world thinking they have covid 19 and are gonna die.

China fucked up, they knew about it in November, we found out about it in December, Trump wanted to close flights from China in January but the cdc and trumps opposition said no, too premature, so it happened anyway but later in February. The ugly face of partisan politics really hurt us, they think everything the president does is racist and or anti immigrant, well my family are immigrants ourselves. Trump tried to prevent this outbreak sooner, but it was a bit too late, we need stronger borders. We also need flight screening from foreign countries, but like I said, the asymptomatic carrier, someone from China probably came here feeling fine, but had. Covid 19. That’s the biggest issue with this virus. The asymptomatic carriers. They can spread it to someone with a shitty immune system or the elderly and it’s a death sentence.

A lot of people die from influenza a year, I think 18,000 have already died from influenza this year. Covid 19 is a bad flu that can turn pneumonia. 2020, will have the highest flu deaths in a long while, thanks to covid 19. China really screwed the pooch on this one. They were secretive until it was too late. I feel bad for Italy, if wanna talk someone who didn’t take it seriously, look no further than Italy.
Without a doubt the most informed, intelligent post I've read on the entire subject.
Many thanks, amigo.
 
??? Money can always be made again..but the people who die from this are gone forever..maybe one them was gunna cure cancer or end famine in certain regions or maybe give birth to the next great world leader?sports star ..who knows ..

People are worth more then money ..any day all day...

Think more in terms of - once a business closes, it typically stays closed. Now imagine 20% of the work force is unemployed. Now imagine they all need rent and food money at the same time. Money is the lifeblood of modern society. Without it you become like this:

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Not getting the seriousness of this shit or not getting covid? I know 4 people personally who have it 1 of which is in severe condition. Cases are damn doubling every week where I'm at.



They studied cases of people who recovered and showed that like 4 out of the 12 studied lost up to 20-30% of lung function. That's winded walking up the stairs tier cardio.
who studied cases?
sauce?
 
Got any stats? I am aware that there are examples of seemingly healthy people getting damage (including lung damage) but am not sure what kind of percentages we are talking about in terms of how bad it is
Of course he has no stats. How could anyone with half a brain cell say that permanent damage was done to the lungs after a few weeks. It would take years to observe people and study their function and it hasn’t even been around 6 months.
 
“If “
an asteroid hits in the USA the deaths will be in the millions..

Explain to me what "if" means to you.

"If" for me means huge emergency works by public health care professionals, backed up by social distancing by the population, and massive government support.
That should get the US numbers well under the potential 11 million.

You are the one who suggested that nothing is done to check the virus because other things kill people too.
 
Without a doubt the most informed, intelligent post I've read on the entire subject.
Many thanks, amigo.
Senator Rand Paul, tested positive, feels fine, Idris Elba, tested positive also feels fine. That’s dangerous to who they can infect, hence the 15 day lock down, if everyone with covid 19 had the same symptoms, it would be easy to detect and isolate. Also the test is very expensive. The average Joe won’t get tested because too expensive, not only do you have to have symptoms, but they better be severe. Then you’ll get tested. We shouldn’t be fearful, but we should respect the 15 day distancing. They are most likely going to extend the 15 day period in place like NYC, Seattle, LA, etc. but other parts of the country, ya know, the parts where they make our food. They should be good to go. They talked about it today, we can’t treat one sector the same, also, NYC always gets it the worst. From 9/11 to this. I live in La, it’s been crazy here but it’s slowing down. Difference between LA and NYC, la is spread out, while nyc is crazy concentrated.
 
Explain to me what "if" means to you.

"If" for me means huge emergency works by public health care professionals, backed up by social distancing by the population, and massive government support.
That should get the US numbers well under the potential 11 million.

You are the one who suggested that nothing is done to check the virus because other things kill people too.

What I’m saying is that you are comparing actual numbers with projected hypothetical ones..And then drawing a conclusion that the hypothetical situation is more dangerous and has a greater cause for concern...
 
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