Joe Lauzon and Big Fights

[alaykala04]

It seems like Joe has been getting thrown into fights he is supposed to lose since the beginning of his UFC career.

It started with Jens Pulver right before they did TUF 5. It was funny how Joe got into TUF right after that fight, as a contestant with a coach that he just beat. That made the season really interesting for me and I think helped give Joe his wildcard "aura" or whatever.

Then he was fighting Kenny Florian for the number 1 contender spot (after losing on TUF and winning 2 fights against UFC newcomers). After losing that fight, he fought George Sotiropolous (back when he was close to a title shot) after beating Gabe Ruediger and losing to Sam Stout before that.

He then gets Melvin Guillard who was red hot at the time after beating Evan Dunham and Shane Roller with Guillard talking about getting his title shot soon and so on. Lauzon beats Guillard and then gets Pettis for another fight with big implications. Lauzon lost to Pettis, got one win and now he is back to fighting killers in Jim Miller.

I guess the UFC either keeps trying to get Lauzon to the top as fast as possible or they keep trying to feed him to the wolves. He is kind of a wildcard in that he doesn't have many wins over top opponents and often loses badly (against top opponents nonetheless) but is very dangerous and kind of reminds me of BJ Penn (how he starts his fights very aggressive and stalking his opponents). Obviously he is very exciting and unpredictable (I think he was been to one decision his entire UFC career).

Although it may seem that Joe gets thrown into these big fights, I think it is fitting for a fighter like him. I personally hope that Joe flips a switch one day (like Anderson did after losing to Chonan) and starts destroying people consistently. What do you guys think? Will we have the UFC's first creepy lightweight champ sometime soon?

 

[Mikeyz]

It seems like Joe has been getting thrown into fights he is supposed to lose since the beginning of his UFC career.

It started with Jens Pulver right before they did TUF 5. It was funny how Joe got into TUF right after that fight, as a contestant with a coach that he just beat. That made the season really interesting for me and I think helped give Joe his wildcard "aura" or whatever.

Then he was fighting Kenny Florian for the number 1 contender spot (after losing on TUF and winning 2 fights against UFC newcomers). After losing that fight, he fought George Sotiropolous (back when he was close to a title shot) after beating Gabe Ruediger and losing to Sam Stout before that.

He then gets Melvin Guillard who was red hot at the time after beating Evan Dunham and Shane Roller with Guillard talking about getting his title shot soon and so on. Lauzon beats Guillard and then gets Pettis for another fight with big implications. Lauzon lost to Pettis, got one win and now he is back to fighting killers in Jim Miller.

I guess the UFC either keeps trying to get Lauzon to the top as fast as possible or they keep trying to feed him to the wolves. He is kind of a wildcard in that he doesn't have many wins over top opponents and often loses badly (against top opponents nonetheless) but is very dangerous and kind of reminds me of BJ Penn (how he starts his fights very aggressive and stalking his opponents). Obviously he is very exciting and unpredictable (I think he was been to one decision his entire UFC career).

Although it may seem that Joe gets thrown into these big fights, I think it is fitting for a fighter like him. I personally hope that Joe flips a switch one day (like Anderson did after losing to Chonan) and starts destroying people consistently. What do you guys think? Will we have the UFC's first creepy lightweight champ sometime soon?

Wow, an intelligent thread from a White belt.

Kudos to you sir, you are definitely the exception to the rule. I agree with everything you said, especially the George Sotiropolous part. I never expected Lauzon to win that fight either

 

[xn7]

Wow, an intelligent thread from a White belt.

Kudos to you sir, you are definitely the exception to the rule. I agree with everything you said, especially the George Sotiropolous part. I never expected Lauzon to win that fight either

all kinds of smart from u.. LOL.. ... ..

 

[ajmonsta]

Lauzon is one of those fighters who probably will never win the belt but could beat Amy fighter on any given night. Always fun to watch and can't wait to see him destroy miller.

 

[Mikeyz]

all kinds of smart from u.. LOL.. ... ..

No. I am actually being serious. The TS was bang on with alot of his comments

 

[Judoxing]

I love Creepy Joe, but I don't see him ever winning the title. Everyone at the top is a bad matchup for him, in that they all have better wrestling, and most have better striking. Lauzon has been fringe top 10 for years, but I don't think he'll ever get much further than that

 

[xn7]

No. I am actually being serious. The TS was bang on with alot of his comments

i'm talking about your way of thinking.

"white belts are dumb and make bad posts".. stupid.

and also, the guy has an account from 2008. double oops on u

 

[Mikeyz]

i'm talking about your way of thinking.

"white belts are dumb and make bad posts".. stupid.

and also, the guy has an account from 2008. double oops on u

Is it not true that the majority of posts by white belts on here are troll worthy?

And yeah, I just noticed now it's an 08 account

 

[ajmonsta]

Is it not true that the majority of posts by white belts on here are troll worthy?

And yeah, I just noticed now it's an 08 account

I've seen some black belts making some pretty cringe worthy threads lately

 

[Mikeyz]

I've seen some black belts making some pretty cringe worthy threads lately

I never said higher belt posters never make troll threads, i just said the majority of threads like that are started by white belts

 

[RaggedyRooster]

 

[The Taxman]

I wouldn't say he gets a lot of big fights as much as he seems to choke in big fights (except Pulver, Guillard) Hopefully he pulls it off against Miller, but you never know

 

[iowamma2012]

Joe Lauzon fills Chris Lytles role now in the UFC. I dont think the UFC is deliberately throwin him into tough matches. I think expectations for him is high. He is 9-4 in the UFC and he is a very technically proficient fighter.

I actually think hes Chris Lytle updated version. Lytle won 8 of his last 12 fights in the UFC but was 2-6 to start out fhis UFC career. Lauzon at 9-4 is pretty good when his 4 losses were to

Showtime- Legitimate argument could be made he could be LW champ by May.
Kenny Florian- 3 time title contender
Sotoropoulis- Doesnt look that great right now following his recent 3 losses but when Soto won, it was the completion of a 7 fight win streak
Stout- Game opponent

hes an exciting guy who wins bonuses every time he fights. Hes technically skilled and goes for it. My buddy and I always drool when we see him on a card cause we know at least one fight is going to be guaranteed awesome.

Dudes 28. I wish he went to one of the supercamps. I think him owning and operating his own gym is going to diminish the amount of improvement he can make over his career.

I'm actually kind of glad hes fighting Jim Miller instead of Maynard. Miller is game but a reasonable opponent. Maynard should get the next title shot versus Bendo.

 

[Pennisland]

I think he'll beat Miller. Remember had he beat Pettis he arguably could've fought for the belt, he even said that. He can be champion

 

[WilfordBrimley]

I can agree with a lot of these points. It does seem like he gets thrown into the top 10-15 a lot. But the UFC has always had a habit of doing that, like Paulo vs Kos, or Abedi vs Alves. In defense of Lauzon though, he wins in brutal fashion, and can be very aggressive. So there's never really a fight where I thought he couldn't pull it off somehow.

 

[sedition]

I don't think it's all that suprising, he keeps getting thrown into big fights because he is a damn-good fighter to watch at work. He's the kind of fighter Dana and Joe love.

With that being said, he will never be champ. He's just not quite good enough (I suppose he could make some quantum leap, but I doubt that would happen).

Because he's so ridiculously aggressive, when he fights lesser fighters, he tends to demolish them in ways that makes him look elite- but he'll continue to consistently lose to the top contenders of the division in my opinion.

Either way, I fucking love watching his fights and I hope he goes on another hot-streak and at least sniffs a title shot at some point.

 

[8KresniK8]

I dont think they push Joe into big fights. He has been around for a long time, some guys never get the belt but stay at high level and keep fighting tough guys for living. Joe has won some and lost some but he has never been in a situation where he needed a step back in competition or was close to being cut.

 

[Rockapotomuses]

Dudes 28. I wish he went to one of the supercamps. I think him owning and operating his own gym is going to diminish the amount of improvement he can make over his career.

I wonder this also. Is owning his own gym right now good for his future income, or would he be better off spending time away and coming back to it after he retires?

 

[iowamma2012]

I wouldn't say he gets a lot of big fights as much as he seems to choke in big fights (except Pulver, Guillard) Hopefully he pulls it off against Miller, but you never know

I would call the win over Varner and his win over Mike Brown pre UFC as some valid wins as well.

Really needs to get into one of the major camps. Takes too many chances. Needs to get with ATT,THE Blackzillians,jacksons,Quest,TriStar,etc. where "steel can sharpen steel".

 

[ajmonsta]

I think he'll beat Miller. Remember had he beat Pettis he arguably could've fought for the belt, he even said that. He can be champion

Agree with penis island...