I think you have a major problem with reading comprehension. I seriously do. I said I understand you hate the religion - fine. BUT I asked why you posted those points? to justify WHY you hate Muslim people? sure looks that way. who is the dense one?
Again, you're making a jump from the religion to the people with zero basis! I mean "hate" is literally the strongest word in my language and I in fact think it is too strong for my perspective about Islam to be perfectly honest! I believe 100% that the religion is a cancer is and horrifically detrimental to any and every society it exists in - things worsen in every single society as it grows (and don't kid yourself about dumb luck oil lottery countries like Saudi Arabia which is the reason they have any worth). So you're actually misrepresenting my position in nearly every post you refer to me.
also, of course there are ex Muslims criticizing their former religion. the same goes for ex Christians/Catholics, ex Jewish folk & all religions. I'm not defending the religion, which you keep resorting to. there are those to practice the religion in a peaceful manner, if that's hard to believe.
They are only ignoring the violent and oppressive parts. And in fact, they by and large aren't even doing that (yes, even the ones you think are).
I swear, the biggest problem right now in the west is an ignorance of this religion and even the basic lack critical thinking.
Do you think it is peaceful to practice a religion where many-to-most of the women (and young girls even) are forced to wear hijabs!!! Are you insane?! Young prepubescent girls and women, in America, Canada, the UK, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Germany, Belgium (throughout Europe and North America) are forced to wear hijabs to supposedly thwart longing/lustful looks? How long do you think it takes to get every thread of hair covered and looking somewhat nice every time they go out in public?! This is just one of the daily acts of oppression we sickeningly overlook! And it is largely impressed on the women and girls by their father's request and even insistence! Yes, this is fact! Even when Muslim women suggest that it is their own volition. This is hardly the case if it were not some imposed guilt trip, and even so would STILL be a warped thing (making the acts of rape a woman's fault)!
Further, you may well wrongly compare hijabs to nuns! This would be religious garb that clearly they've chosen for their paths of chastity and segregation to God similar to that of a priest or Imam or Buddhist monk! This is not common dress!
The nearest oppressive garb in the free world would be the Hutterite, Mennonite and Aumish women, but still, the extent of their dress is a small cap or scarf that doesn't need to cover all of the hair. Too, their men dress equally as odd. And, they are hardly a spreading, militant movement - rather a dieing-out minority of the extremely docile and peaceful (pacifists to through and through). I would consider these small people group's dress extreme, but less so than Muslims.
What about the extremism of keeping Ramadan? This lasts for a month where Muslims can't eat or even drink liquids from sun-up until sun-down. How does this affect economies with sick days and diminished performance? It most certainly does. And I don't buy that it doesn't affect the athletes that compete under this ridiculous duress.
How about the Jewish racial hate that is clearly stated in the literature and spills over into marches and solidarity days?
I could go on and on and on.
You may "think" that the moderates around you don't practice extremism but I can assure you that nearly all of them do in various measures and ways. And you can be absolutely sure that even as minority numbers grow they WILL expect their demands and oppressive ways to be met - ignoring their relative place amongst the civilized.
next, I brought up he's Jewish because he's made sketchy extremist comments about Palestenians/Muslims in the past, hence the guy is factoring bias. please, keep up bro.
Please post something otherwise you are simply slurring this fellow with here-say.
I apologize for offending you, I really do. you're right, I can't remember you saying anything bad about me, but dude. you've made blatant loathsome comments about Muslim people & women more than once. I'm sorry but I didn't just come to this conclusion on my own, you have plenty of posts that prove this.
Nope, wrong. A blanket statement that is not true.
& please, I was born & raised in New York City, you ought to know how densely populated it is here, nearly on every block there are ALL types of people & I've grown up around ALL these types of people of different races & religions. across the street from my building is a Jewish Temple, across the street from there is a Hindu Temple. 6 blocks away from my parents' is a Japanese Buddhist Temple. about 10 blocks from me, there are Muslim Mosques, Korean Churches, you name it. the only aggressive people here in all of my 33 years of living in this city have been Mormons (they have a church a block away from my parents).
Mormon's may be aggressive in their proselytizing but the religion is largely harmless (same goes for Jehovah's Witnesses).
I do not doubt Muslims are a problem outside the US, but here in the US there are more that are proud to be American than those that aren't. you clearly deem every single one of them as a threat - hence why I think you don't know many.
As I've reiterated many, many times. I have talked about religious things with many, many Muslims - both men and women. I have a brother who went to Jordan for awhile. I have family friends in Turkey (for about 30 years). My mom nearly went to work in Saudi Arabia. My parents did work in Nigeria for several years (and, ironically, my mom would have a perspective similar to yours that most of the Nigerian women and men she took care of were "nice.").
That all said, I have developed this perspective through quite a lot of effort and research for over 30 years and know beyond the shadow of a doubt what this religion is about. It moves in, is abrasive, it demands, it gets its way, it ruins countries.
You may wonder why there is some vitriol in my tone and writing. It's because anyone who's seen what I have (the continuous human atrocity) for over 30 years, knows beyond the shadow of a doubt this religion is a cancer and it will (if allowed to, or if ignored, or if placated) destroy the host country, and continent. This religion will have to be dealt with by civilized humanity.
also, I do not for a second believe this:
It's because you don't really understand what they're inflicted with. And then you misinterpret my passion.
when you passionately went of the rails with this:
Actually nothing I said there was wrong. I should have added in as a final sentence - because of their false cult. That is all.
