Jesus vs Muhammad - A funny video....

[ValidArmani]

This guy hits it out of the park.


The reason why islam is bad is NOT because it has some violent and cruel followers....

IT IS bad because the very core of islam (Muhammad) is violent and cruel. If Muhammad was alive today the western world would have to fight against him undoubtedly in military conflict.


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If people truly followed Jesus words we would have utopia but if we followed Muhammad we would have worldwide ISIS and this is fact.

I love my islamic brothers and sisters but Islam cannot be a religion of peace because its fundamentals are evil.

 

[gspieler]

Seems a bit silly to use Jesus as the gauge for Christianity tbh, in light of the acts Old Testament God committed.

 

[dissolved]

I agree with the videos.

 

[dissolved]

Seems a bit silly to use Jesus as the gauge for Christianity tbh, in light of the acts Old Testament God committed.

Er, Jesus is the fulfillment of "the law" (Old Testament commands and prophecies), thus he is the central person of Christianity.

The Old Testament is largely considered a historical document, which (amongst other things), points to the futility and impossibility of appeasing a Holy God through works (thus the violence etc).

 

[dontsnitch]

Seems a bit silly to use Jesus as the gauge for Christianity tbh, in light of the acts Old Testament God committed.

Modern day CHRISTianity mirrors CHRIST, so it makes perfect sense to gauge CHRISTianity on him.

Too bad the Quran didn't have a revision where someone came along and said not to kill gay people, infidels, and to treat women as property... Too bad.

 

[ValidArmani]

Seems a bit silly to use Jesus as the gauge for Christianity tbh, in light of the acts Old Testament God committed.

Why wouldn't I use the central figure of christianity as a gauge? The topic is about the core of christianity and islam.

Muhammad and Jesus.

 

[gspieler]

Er, Jesus is the fulfillment of "the law" (Old Testament commands and prophecies), thus he is the central person of Christianity.

The Old Testament is largely considered a historical document, which (amongst other things), points to the futility and impossibility of appeasing a Holy God through works (thus the violence etc).

Jesus is the embodiment of God; the same infallible God who committed genocide(oddly enough on his own creation), etc. Jesus' philosophical views being essentially 180 degrees from that is a huge contradiction, to say the least.

 

[dontsnitch]

Jesus is the embodiment of God; the same infallible God who committed genocide(oddly enough on his own creation), etc. Jesus' philosophical views being essentially 180 degrees from that is a huge contradiction, to say the least.

Irrelevant. At worst, Christ came and switched the script, contradicting everything, which Christians follow today.

Islam is the same barbaric religion it was in the 5th Century.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

Er, Jesus is the fulfillment of "the law" (Old Testament commands and prophecies), thus he is the central person of Christianity.

The Old Testament is largely considered a historical document, which (amongst other things), points to the futility and impossibility of appeasing a Holy God through works (thus the violence etc).

No he isn't. Because if he was then there would be no Jews today and we would have a unified world with all the bad/cursed gone.

 

[Skip Reming]

Seems a bit silly to use Jesus as the gauge for Christianity tbh, in light of the acts Old Testament God committed.

how so? it is called CHRISTianity

But the OT God is the same as the NT God and thank God for that.

Now, there is an old covenant and a new covenant. But without israel there is no Jesus

 

[gspieler]

Why wouldn't I use the central figure of christianity as a gauge? The topic is about the core of christianity and islam.

Muhammad and Jesus.

Because it's misleading; it implies the rest of the Bible is consistent with Jesus' kindness, tolerance, compassion, etc. In reality, Bible and Quaran alike are full of atrocities, contradictions, advocation so of violent solutions, etc. Why not compare them at their respective beets/worsts, if we're going to draw generalizations about each book from them?

 

[dissolved]

No he isn't. Because if he was then there would be no Jews today and we would have a unified world with all the bad/cursed gone.

There is fulfillment of prophecy yet to happen.

 

[ValidArmani]

Because it's misleading; it implies the rest of the Bible is consistent with Jesus' kindness, tolerance, compassion, etc. In reality, Bible and Quaran alike are full of atrocities, contradictions, advocation so of violent solutions, etc. Why not compare them at their respective beets/worsts, if we're going to draw generalizations about each book from them?

You're not interested in what my topic is about your interested in debating the ethics of God in the old testament to avoid talking about Jesus. You're trying to avoid my point.

 

[ValidArmani]

No he isn't. Because if he was then there would be no Jews today and we would have a unified world with all the bad/cursed gone.

Jesus will return and finish off the prophecies left undone.

 

[dissolved]

Because it's misleading; it implies the rest of the Bible is consistent with Jesus' kindness, tolerance, compassion, etc. In reality, Bible and Quaran alike are full of atrocities, contradictions, advocation so of violent solutions, etc. Why not compare them at their respective beets/worsts, if we're going to draw generalizations about each book from them?

Is there an Old Testament and a New Testament?

Literally are there not two books making up "The Bible?"

You are espousing superiority on this topic. Do you want to tell us why those exist? Why did Jesus talk of a "new covenant in [His] blood"?

 

[gspieler]

Irrelevant. At worst, Christ came and switched the script, contradicting everything, which Christians follow today.

Islam is the same barbaric religion it was in the 5th Century.

How is that irrelevant? God sets up shop, and commits insane acts of cruelty. Then his son comes along(who is actually him), and negates all of his dad's cruelty by preaching a fundamentally different message altogether. What's irrelevant is just cherry-picking the texts, and using those as rationalization for societal trends today.

 

[dontsnitch]

How is that irrelevant? God sets up shop, and commits insane acts of cruelty. Then his son comes along(who is actually him), and negates all of his dad's cruelty by preaching a fundamentally different message altogether. What's irrelevant is just cherry-picking the texts, and using those as rationalization for societal trends today.

It's irrelevant because Christians follow Christ, so it doesn't matter if Christ contradicted God. All that matters is that Christians are peaceful (golden rule) because they follow Christ. On the other hand, Muslims follow Mo, which demands blood and always has. The fact that in 2016, Muslims are killing people every single day in the name of religion should be your first clue that something is off.

If you are Muslim, I would have approached this differently, but I guess it's too late for that.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

There is fulfillment of prophecy yet to happen.

Oh okay

 

[gspieler]

It's irrelevant because Christians follow Christ, so it doesn't matter if Christ contradicted God. All that matters is that Christians are peaceful (golden rule) because they follow Christ. On the other hand, Muslims follow Mo, which demands blood and always has. The fact that in 2016, Muslims are killing people every single day in the name of religion should be your first clue that something is off.

If you are Muslim, I would have approached this differently, but I guess it's too late for that.

Christians are not (relatively) peaceful solely because of the Bible. Christianity, up until fairly recently, was anything but peaceful. Heretics burned at the stake, countries invaded, genocide, etc, by people who followed the same book.

That's the whole point; judging the entirety of the texts, and by the practionioners of each religion, by two central figures, is at the very least, an oversimplification. Just my .02. Don't really have any more time for this thread. Do with that what you will.

 

[gspieler]

Christians are not (relatively) peaceful solely because of the Bible. Christianity, up until fairly recently, was anything but peaceful. Heretics burned at the stake, countries invaded, genocide, etc, by people who followed the same book.

That's the whole point; judging the entirety of the texts, and the practionioners of each religion by extension, based on two central figures, is at the very least, an oversimplification. Just my .02. Don't really have any more time for this thread. Do with that what you will.