News Jean Silva opens as big betting favorite over Bryce Mitchell

[oski]

but Silva has good TDD

I actually believe that that is the leak for him and Bryce, who with the covids took down Toppy, will certainly tell us if he's fixed it.

I mean Charles Jourdain took him down pretty much when he wanted to before getting blasted...

 

[burningspear]

hoping bryce humbles short stuff

 

[Tweak896]

I actually believe that that is the leak for him and Bryce, who with the covids took down Toppy, will certainly tell us if he's fixed it.

I mean Charles Jourdain took him down pretty much when he wanted to before getting blasted...

Good point. Mitchell isn't a slouch either, probably better than Jourdain for takedowns. Like you said he took down Topuria too. If he lets it go, Jean Silva has some of the highest killer instinct in the division. Also want to add that Jourdain wasn't able to keep Silva down too long. It'll be good to show where both guys are right now.

 

[tgv976]

I hope Bryce sends this demon back to hell. But it's not an easy job and hope Bryce has been training a lot more than watching and reading conspiracy stuff.

 

[BangBang]

Don't know too much about Jean, but he was a complete dick at the presser. God's soldier V2 will deal with him!

 

[NoSmilez]

Did Bryce find new coaching? He looks bad when he doesn’t have his gambling coach

 

[Senbonzakura]

Jean hits him in the medula oblongota and Bryce wakes up becoming the nicest man in the UFC offering money to charities and completing make a wishes for kids of all races.

It will be a glorius redemption arc

 

[DrRodentia]

Striker vs strong grappler. Hope Jean wins, but Bryce would be a solid bet.

 

[DrRodentia]

Odds seem fine for me, Jean Silva is destined for a top 5 slot whenever he gets the chance. Not only is Mitchell chinny but Silva has good TDD. You're betting on Mitchell riding out a decision wrestling him all rounds.

I don't think Bryce getting flatlined by an Emmett bomb is proof of a poor chin. Emmett could do that to anyone if he lands flush like that.

 

[Aurelian]

I don't think Bryce getting flatlined by an Emmett bomb is proof of a poor chin. Emmett could do that to anyone if he lands flush like that.

True, but it seems like Jean has decent power himself. However, I don't think his grappling is anywhere near Emmett's which gives Bryce a solid chance if he gets it to the ground, especially in a 3 rounder.

 

[SamuraiBro]

Charles Jourdain took down Jean Silva multiple times. Bryce is a wayyy better grappler than Jourdain. That’s insane odds.

 

[Tweak896]

I don't think Bryce getting flatlined by an Emmett bomb is proof of a poor chin. Emmett could do that to anyone if he lands flush like that.

That's true, Emmet has nukes. But because he hits so hard, might have cracked his chin. Jean Silva will test it for everyone lol

 

[Jinx_AA]

This might be it for Bryce sadly

2 brutal kos in a row and lots of controversial comments could equal end of career

Would love to see a Bryce submission - but don’t see it at all

Silvas been a great addition and fan friendly striker - but needs to be humbled onto some respect sometimes - he constantly comes across as douchey … as does prates (whos also very impressive and exciting)

 

[Prazeres]

His W over Mariscal has aged great too

Funny how Mariscal level of opposition prior to coming to the UFC was greater than the one he has faced so far in the promotion.
Gillespie, Mitchell, Sabatini, Zalal, Brito, Garcia nothing but the biggest monsters he could find on the regional scene.

 

[Shadey1]

I don't like Bryce but he should not be the underdog in this IMO. I think because of the shit he says it's easy to forget he can actually fight

 

[ElLunico]

Agreed that Silva is favorite but that's a bit much. Definitely worth putting some $$ on Bryce

 

[Safton]

Odds seem fine for me, Jean Silva is destined for a top 5 slot whenever he gets the chance. Not only is Mitchell chinny but Silva has good TDD. You're betting on Mitchell riding out a decision wrestling him all rounds.

Silva's TDD is decent. I don't know that it's great. Mitchell is easily the best grappler he's faced to date. He got put on his back three times by a panic-wrestling Charles Jourdain, which is concerning considering Jourdain is one of the most pure strikers in the sport and is typically the dude getting outwrestled.

I mean on-paper, "chinny submission wrestler versus muscled-up Brazilian knockout artist with killer instinct who's a huge favorite over him" just happened last night... and it ended with Sabatini not only pulling an upset, but having one of the most dominant performances of the entire fight card by making Joanderson Brito look like an absolute White Belt who's never wrestled a day in his life. Silva seems very talented and I've been keeping my eye on him. His ceiling is probably higher than Brito's. But Joanderson is a pretty solid FW in his own right and has put in a lot of work at 145. Had a decent TDD stat prior to the fight, even. And I don't think Mitchell is quite as chinny or lost in the striking as Pat is.

All this to say that I don't mind Silva being the favorite. I'll probably pick him when the time comes, but -450 corresponds to an implied win percentage of like 82%. I dunno that I'm that confident Jean smokes Bryce. Like I said, we see the hard-nosed grappler grind out the scary knockout artist all the time and Silva hasn't put on a ton of sprawl-n-brawl showcases against high-caliber grapplers to generate the level of confidence that a moneyline of that level would suggest... but that's just me. I'm taking Silva by KO and hoping he factory-resets Mitchell again like Emmett did, but I won't even be a little surprised if Bryce does to him what he did to Barboza or what Sabatini did to Brito last night.

 

[Tweak896]

Silva's TDD is decent. I don't know that it's great. Mitchell is easily the best grappler he's faced to date. He got put on his back three times by a panic-wrestling Charles Jourdain, which is concerning considering Jourdain is one of the most pure strikers in the sport and is typically the dude getting outwrestled.

I mean on-paper, "chinny submission wrestler versus muscled-up Brazilian knockout artist with killer instinct who's a huge favorite over him" just happened last night... and it ended with Sabatini not only pulling an upset, but having one of the most dominant performances of the entire fight card by making Joanderson Brito look like an absolute White Belt who's never wrestled a day in his life. Silva seems very talented and I've been keeping my eye on him. His ceiling is probably higher than Brito's. But Joanderson is a pretty solid FW in his own right and has put in a lot of work at 145. Had a decent TDD stat prior to the fight, even. And I don't think Mitchell is quite as chinny or lost in the striking as Pat is.

All this to say that I don't mind Silva being the favorite. I'll probably pick him when the time comes, but -450 corresponds to an implied win percentage of like 82%. I dunno that I'm that confident Jean smokes Bryce. Like I said, we see the hard-nosed grappler grind out the scary knockout artist all the time and Silva hasn't put on a ton of sprawl-n-brawl showcases against high-caliber grapplers to generate the level of confidence that a moneyline of that level would suggest... but that's just me. I'm taking Silva by KO and hoping he factory-resets Mitchell again like Emmett did, but I won't even be a little surprised if Bryce does to him what he did to Barboza or what Sabatini did to Brito last night.

That's true, but also he's never been taken down before or since. Dober is a giant LW yet couldn't get it done. Also the only fight after that brutal Emmett KO is beating Kron, so 1 fight since 2023. They just are on 2 different trajectories. Kron certainly wasn't going to test Mitchell's chin after Emmett.

 

[Safton]

That's true, but also he's never been taken down before or since. Dober is a giant LW yet couldn't get it done. Also the only fight after that brutal Emmett KO is beating Kron, so 1 fight since 2023. They just are on 2 different trajectories. Kron certainly wasn't going to test Mitchell's chin after Emmett.

Dober, like Jourdain, is a guy who is typically getting outgrappled by the people he fights. Not the other way around. Also like Jourdain he went in there with the intention of striking and then got busted up and bloodied at which he decided to implement his wrestling. Drew is a big, physical guy who wrestled in high school but he's a fairly mediocre grappler. He's got a 17% takedown accuracy across an extensive UFC career.

I won't deny that momentum is on Silva's side and is a big factor into my picking Silva in the first place. But Bryce really hasn't been known as a particularly chinny guy until lately. It seems like a... revisionist narrative just because one of the hardest punchers the division has ever seen connected perfectly on him with an overhand and slept him. He had never been KO'd prior. The only other man who was able to drop him prior was Topuria, i.e. a guy renowned for his power, hand speed, and extremely dangerous boxing combinations -- the same guy who cracked the most legendary chin in the history of the sport.

I mean is it possible that Mitchell's chin is cracked and that the punishment from Topuria and Emmett changed him? Sure, absolutely. I don't deny that for a second. We see that all the time. Furthermore, I don't even think it's necessary for that to have been the case. Silva is clearly "built different" when it comes to explosiveness and timing so I think he has 100% the ability to put Bryce down in any case considering others have (and I'm picking him to do so)... it's just that I don't necessarily agree with the idea that Bryce is chinny simply because it doesn't really account for the context of who he's getting hit by and under what circumstances lol.

I don't even like the dude at all, I'm just a stickler for these things. It's like when people say that Curtis Blaydes has a glass chin because they look at his Wikipedia profile and see that all of his losses are by KO/TKO, but don't bother to look into it beyond that.

 

[Tweak896]

Dober, like Jourdain, is a guy who is typically getting outgrappled by the people he fights. Not the other way around. Also like Jourdain he went in there with the intention of striking and then got busted up and bloodied at which he decided to implement his wrestling. Drew is a big, physical guy who wrestled in high school but he's a fairly mediocre grappler. He's got a 17% takedown accuracy across an extensive UFC career.

I won't deny that momentum is on Silva's side and is a big factor into my picking Silva in the first place. But Bryce really hasn't been known as a particularly chinny guy until lately. It seems like a... revisionist narrative just because one of the hardest punchers the division has ever seen connected perfectly on him with an overhand and slept him. He had never been KO'd prior. The only other man who was able to drop him prior was Topuria, i.e. a guy renowned for his power, hand speed, and extremely dangerous boxing combinations -- the same guy who cracked the most legendary chin in the history of the sport.

I mean is it possible that Mitchell's chin is cracked and that the punishment from Topuria and Emmett changed him? Sure, absolutely. I don't deny that for a second. We see that all the time. Furthermore, I don't even think it's necessary for that to have been the case. Silva is clearly "built different" when it comes to explosiveness and timing so I think he has 100% the ability to put Bryce down in any case considering others have (and I'm picking him to do so)... it's just that I don't necessarily agree with the idea that Bryce is chinny simply because it doesn't really account for the context of who he's getting hit by and under what circumstances lol.

I don't even like the dude at all, I'm just a stickler for these things. It's like when people say that Curtis Blaydes has a glass chin because they look at his Wikipedia profile and see that all of his losses are by KO/TKO, but don't bother to look into it beyond that.

Fair enough, that's total speculation on my part and it's because his chin took a Nuke by Emmett. Like you said this is Silva's wrestling test, it's going to be hard for him to stay at the top with guys like Evoloev in the division anyways if he can't pass by Mitchell.

You make a good case for why I should be more excited for this fight, but my initial reaction was this was too easy of a fight for Silva and he was ready for top 5 guy. We'll see when this fight comes. Either way if Jean Silva loses he'll still be one of my favorites because he always comes to bang.