Predicated on me having watched his fights. He was famously stopped by... well, everyone. Then he got massive and fought a steady diet of cans. He gets signed by the UFC, spectacularly fails his very first random PEDS test. Proceeds to resume getting knocked out in half his fights.
That is a completely honest and fair summary. He's also slimmed down considerably and I don't want to delve into that, but do NOT tell me it doesn't affect his durability and confidence. It does.
Overeem (read: modern diet Overeem) is similar to the guy he was before getting huge - he's getting knocked out by the marquee names he faces, and he hasn't even faced the best yet.
Dos Santos is going to summarily run over Overeem 9/10 times.
Kharitonov, Crocop, Brock, Frank Mir. Lol @ Brett Rogers at that time, he almost beat Fedor. Wifebeater beating Fedor, that would've been terrible.I also don't use the word can as liberally as you do, I don't consider Mark Hunt, Rodgers(at the time), Duffee, and Werdum to be cans.
Mehehe, I don't know. I think the diet change def. effected him and his early fights. Think he has looked better since though. Shrugs, all top fighters have looked really poor at some time: Cain, Werdum, JDS.
Styles make fights though. I think Overeem could beat Werdum, JDS will be harder and Cain would be a terrible fight for him. On that note, even Cain looked sluggish in his last fight (sea level shit my ass), we'll have to see Cain fight again. Also think Overeem can beat Miocic. Anyway, all of those fighters can also knock him out. What is weird to me is that he doesn't focus on his ground game anymore, he used to be a great groundfighters at LHW.
Kharitonov, Crocop, Brock, Frank Mir. Lol @ Brett Rogers at that time, he almost beat Fedor.
By at the time I mean at that point in time. Rogers was a top HW, some guys just flame out after some success at the top quickly.
Very good!!! He's the best striker in the division and can sharpen his game at Att, but more so the wrestling/grappling and physical parts of his game.
Even with the loss to jds I'd say werdum has more tools striking today.. Jds has the power and boxing but werdum is better at everything else atm
He beat Belfort twice, 1 of two people to ever submit him and he beat him everywhere over their 2 fights. He submitted Igor standing and TKOed Sergei on the ground.
Like I said you are underrating Overeem, yes he can be finished easier than most with strikes cause he freezes up when he takes a big shot(I don't mean mentally) but he is probably the most well rounded HW active right now or the second most behind Werdum and he has a 90% finishing rate.
I also don't use the word can as liberally as you do, I don't consider Mark Hunt, Rodgers(at the time), Duffee, and Werdum to be cans.
he's thinking past overeem.
He beat Belfort during his five-losses-in-seven-fights losing bonanza. Let's play another game - tell me what all these people have in common:
Bobby Hoffman
Chuck Liddell
Rogerio Nogueira
Shogun Rua
Werdum
Ricardo Arona
Sergei Kharitonov
Bigfoot Silva
Traivs Brone
Ben Rothwell
They ALL stopped Overeem. Shogun did it twice for good measure, and 9 of them just straight up knocked him out.
Another thing that is amusing is that only one person on your list has fought JDS. There are a couple people you listed that would beat JDS.
He beat Belfort during his five-losses-in-seven-fights losing bonanza. Let's play another game - tell me what all these people have in common:
Bobby Hoffman
Chuck Liddell
Rogerio Nogueira
Shogun Rua
Werdum
Ricardo Arona
Sergei Kharitonov
Bigfoot Silva
Traivs Brone
Ben Rothwell
They ALL stopped Overeem. Shogun did it twice for good measure, and 9 of them just straight up knocked him out.
Another thing that is amusing is that only one person on your list has fought JDS. There are a couple people you listed that would beat JDS during that time.