JDS lost because he thought he could knock out Klitschko

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  1. linch

    linch Green Belt

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    JDS totally underestimated and disrespected Cain's stand-up skills and that's what cost him the fight.
    He started off well, defending takedown attempts and getting back to his feet quickly when taken down.
    He thought that the only thing he had to worry about were takedowns. But after that punch landed, it was all over. He wasn't able to recover from it. It was the beginning of the end and I'm surprised he lasted full five rounds.
    People who are questioning JDS' cardio have never been hit in the gym (or more likely never stepped into the gym at all). It's not cardio, when you get hit in the chin clearly, it takes everything away from you.
    JDS needs to go back to the drawing board, the same way Caind did after their first encounter, and I believe he's one fight away from the title shot.
     
  2. Neck Crank

    Neck Crank Blue Belt

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    Nah. He just got beat by a better, more rounded fighter. It happens all the time...
     
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    Striker4Life** Banned Banned

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    i'm glad junior got humbled
     
  4. AP_RESURRECTION

    AP_RESURRECTION Gold Belt

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    sounds good i guess, makes no sense in real life, but people always draw these kinds of faulty conclusions - people are fcking morons for a day or two after fights, the threads here are funny

    jds looked to be in good shape and the same shape as usual - cain got tired trying to put jds away but he wouldnt be put away - toward the end, it even looked like he came on a bit

    i think people make predictions and get them wrong, they also voice their picks so confidently (when the fight is basically a toss up) so then they come down extra hard on the fighters who 'let them down' - gotta be mad at someone i guess when you

    standard post fight occurrences
     
  5. M.V.C.

    M.V.C. Silver Belt

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    Of course he lost because he didn't defend the punches properly, hands down all the time.

    But Cain really mixed it nicely, JDS feared the TD, and got punched in the face.

    1-1 now.
     
  6. Free_MMAson

    Free_MMAson Banned Banned

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    Hate to admit it because I both wanted and predicted JDS to win, but Cain is by far a more mixed mixed-martial artist.
     
  7. tkotom

    tkotom Fedor belt

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    He didn't disrespect or underestimate anything.. he looked gassed.

    Generally hard to compete with a world class athlete when you're zombeying your ass across the octagon.

    He evidently gassed and then couldn't do anything but survive. The rest is conjecture.
     
  8. Prex32

    Prex32 Black Belt

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    yeah rogan stated very early in the fight that jds slowed really down
    that was somehow unexpected
     
  9. tkotom

    tkotom Fedor belt

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    It was unreal. Literally just a few minutes in he was compeltely wasted. So unusual.
     
  10. Prex32

    Prex32 Black Belt

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    yeah and that was before the big punch landed
    you know, even crocop taged him, nelson taged him, gonzaga and yvel pushed him, but he was always able to counter punch and defend
    not this time
    that was weird
    he was unable to respond in any way
     
  11. tkotom

    tkotom Fedor belt

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    Yeah Yvel landed a nasty one on him and he kept moving forward.

    I really think he overtrained. People will point to Cain's pace and that may be true but the pace isn't gonna gas you 2 minutes in.
     
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    Canecorsos Red Belt

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    Last time I checked you couldn't kicked or get taken down in boxing
     
  13. valium

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    he didn't overtrain, he was punched in the face over and over again. there's no training to make your face invincible to punches. glad it went the full 5 rounds, jds went out standing.
     
  14. linch

    linch Green Belt

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    do you train any martial art? have you ever been hit in the chin? you don't fully understand what you're talking about here
     
  15. tkotom

    tkotom Fedor belt

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    Yeah I train, yeah i've been hit in the chin.




    JDS totally underestimated and disrespected Cain's stand-up skills and that's what cost him the fight.

    He thought that the only thing he had to worry about were takedowns. But after that punch landed, it was all over. He wasn't able to recover from it.





    What the hell are you talking about man.

    How do you know what he thought and what was going on inside his head.

    You could clearly see the guy was gassed before the punch landed. (Whether it was pace or anything else that's irrelevant) Go back and watch it. He disrespected nothing.
     

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