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Izzy should have came up and smoked Jones when he saw him slowing down.

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  1. Garnet_StrongerThanYou Brown Belt

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    It would have been great if he was the one who came up and took him out, instead of the Reyes fight.

    but he didn’t have that star power drip yet.

    He’s a favourite over Blachowicz and I think today he would be a favourite over Jones.
     
  2. Eiffel-sixtyFight Brown Belt

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    I still see Jones beating him at 205 if he goes back to more wrestling instead of kickboxing.
     
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    It really depends at this point, his past opponents lately have actually been shrugging off wrestling attempts often.
     
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    That's what I mean really. Jones kinda does this whole point fighting kickboxing style now where he wins decisions. I know he finished DC with a kick near enough before the tko.

    In his earlier fights he mixed up the grappling with striking more.
     
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  5. RockyLockridge Silver Belt

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    Jones left too soon, by the time izzy won the belt, jones was getting ready to fight reyes, he left the division after that.
     
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  6. FanofC Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    He tried and failed to hold Santos and Reyes down

    Izzy lights him up standing
     
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    Jones' offensive wrestling has fallen off a cliff. I don't know that he still has it.
     
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    Adesanya didn't think he was ready and he doesn't want to lose to Jones after all the trash talk between him. Jones called him out for a fight before he decided to move up to HW. Adesanya is still chasing a future fight with Jones though, that's why he moved up in weight to try and win the belt Jones vacated. If Jones doesn't move back down I can see Adesanya chasing him at HW.
     
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    Hahahah Jones would beat the tits off Izzy. Why do you think Izzy waited?
     
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    People getting crazy with IZZY hype. Jon Jones would have murdered him.
     
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    How about we see if he can even hang with Jan first before we start claiming he could take Jones. You know, the thing literally no one except Matt Hamill's face could do for thirteen years and counting.
     
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    Jones beats Gynosanya.

    This is why Gynosanya waited for Jones to move up.
     
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    he'll have his chance when Jones gets embarrassed out of HW and runs back to LHW. Blachowicz might sleep Jones first though.
     
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    Izzy def got the style to best jones ...would be amazing to witness
     
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    A couple years ago I woulda laughed hysterically at this. I probably did a few times.

    Things have certainly changed. Izzy has improved fight after fight and his work ethic and confidence is undeniable. Jones only chance is trying to take him down imo, if he can. On the feet, Izzys speed and movement out classes Jones.

    Jones moving to HW is smart. He will be naturally quicker than most of them, but it'll be interesting to see how he handles their power if he gets tagged. Much is the same with Izzy I suppose.
     
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    I dont understand where does that narrative come from.
    He struggled against Reyes but that's it.
    Santos : he did not wrestle at all
    Smith : took him down several times
    Gus : took him down and finished him
     
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    I truly think psychopath Jones is a different animal. The way he finished DC was insane.

    I don’t know who wins, but I do think you’d see the best Jones against Adesanya
     
  19. ferrisjso Goat Lawyer

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    Jones wasn't slowing down. I feel after watching MMA for a long time you should realize early 30's ain't old in this sport. LHW's like all MMA fighters are bigger better athletes then they were when Jones became champ(Rua, Rampage,Machida 6 foot 1, Belfort 6 foot 0, Evans, DC 5 foot 11). Jones used to be much bigger than all his opponents those days are gone and have been for a while. Part of Izzy's lesser dominance today is cause he's the same height as Jones but at 185.

    Anyhow there's like 10 LHW's who'd beat Jan that doesn't mean much. He's champ cause everything broke the right way for him mostly cause Dana put Rockhold and Jacare in line for title shots they didn't deserve based off name recognition. The result was Jan getting credit he didn't deserve for beating them.

    a)Bisping stole Rockholds soul and doesn't know how to put his hands over his head.
    b)Barely beat Jacare. Beating Jacare has become a MW rite of passage.
    c)Corey Anderson dominated their first fight and Jan flukily flash KO'd him in rematch
    d)Reyes took Jan lightly cause he thought he was hot shit for coming so close to beating Jones(which is understandable I think most of us would but he paid the price).

    Jan has shown no history of KO power outside of the 2 fights listed above and was winning most of his fights by decision. He was also a gatekeeper before this run always losing to the best guys he faced most recently to Thiago Santos. While GSP might have targeted a weaker MW champ, Bisping had KO'd Rockhold with 1 eye and in the previous era had been an elite MW. The fact Bisping hadn't been champ or at least gotten a shot earlier was as much bad luck as beating Rockhold was good luck. Jan was never an elite LHW including in the late 2010s when the division was at it's absolute weakest.

    With Izzy it's hard to rate him cause MW fell apart when he was coming on the scene. Almost getting KO'd by Gastelum a fighter with horrid cardio is not a good sign and Izzy hasn't shown much in his last few fights and at MW even if he racks up a bunch of defenses he can't prove anything cause there's no one else really there. Beating Jan to be champ champ which he'll most likely do won't prove anything cause he's a lower level LHW who lucked his way into being champ. It's exactly like what AS did with Forrest except Izzy gets a belt.

    Jones on the other hand was the opposite beating the best division in the history of the sport where you had 4 psuedo champs then TRTor. IMO he's been the GOAT ever since. He's only fought once a year since but everything else is just a bonus with Izzy it's the opposite cause his early defenses came against arguably the worst division in MMA history. Whitakers really all that's left of that era(Romero's complicated cause the records swear Izzy fought Romero but I swear they never fought). Costa might have been unbeaten but before the Yoel fight he was fighting guys like Johnny Hendricks and Uriah Hall.

    Point is I don't understand your faith in Izzy being something special nor why being favored to beat Jan is an accomplishment. Bellators whole top 5 would be favored to beat Jan.
     
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  20. FIGHTING TALK Black Belt

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    Jones would wreck Adesanya in two rounds, wouldn’t even be close.

    Levels.
     
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