Israel Supports Syrian Al-Qaeda Rebels Including ISIS

[logos]

So are we really supposed to take Netanyahu serious? He travels the globe preaching about the threat of Islamic terrorism, but at the same time he's in bed with groups like Jabhat Al-Nusra (Al Qaeda), ISIS, and other Takfiri elements fighting in the Syrian civil war. Currently, the United States is actively fighting these groups in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen. It's also worth mentioning that Iran, Hezbollah, Iraq, and Syrian government forces are fighting these radical Salafist groups as well (although they are not part of the coalition).

...and this is the same guy that Boehner has invited to the U.S. Congress to lecture us on the global threat of terrorism. What a joke.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/un-rep...els-including-the-islamic-state-isis/5429363/

A report submitted to the United Nations Security Council by UN observers in the Golan Heights over the past 18 months shows that Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) have been in regular contact with Syrian rebels, including Islamic State (ISIS) militants.

Israel initially had maintained that it was treating only civilians. However, reports claimed that earlier last month members of Israel

 

[JohnnySagebrush]

No surprise. Israel has wanted Assad to fall for quite a while. I imagine some of the initial call to arms by McCain and others against Assad in the US was driven by Israel's dialogue.

 

[KOQ24]

jukai and marsupial will still deny it.
hows that crow taste?

 

[logos]

No surprise. Israel has wanted Assad to fall for quite a while. I imagine some of the initial call to arms by McCain and others against Assad in the US was driven by Israel's dialogue.

Netanyahu has lost all credibility on the subject of terrorism, imo.

He's actively supporting the elements we are fighting against.

 

[farfan]

i wonder what the " israel can do no wrong " crowd will say about this .

 

[YoungBoyd]

UN is anti-semitic. Move along now.

 

[logos]

It's no wonder Netanyahu only wants to talk about Iran and groups like Hamas when it comes to terrorism...

 

[Jukai]

jukai and marsupial will still deny it.
hows that crow taste?

Well, since I was called out...
1- The story is six months old. The 'chemtrails are killing us, Obama is a Kenyan, USA should be tried for war crimes for Bosnia' conspiracy page Global Research is half a year late in breaking the story.
2- It's pretty well accepted that Israel has been giving hospital aid to Syrian rebels. It's even probably they are doing it so that the rebels don't start shit with Israel. However, it's still noted in the UN report that the majority appear to be civilians and there is only a singular, unverified note about Israel doing anything more than giving medical aid to the rebels
3- Israel helping ISIS is mentioned nowhere in the UN report. ISIS isn't anywhere near Israel's borders. The FSA is the ones who control the areas around Israel's border.

But hey, let's pretend this is late breaking news.
Good to see the usual crowd is all over this thread but ignoring JeffK's thread about Israel/Palestinian peace.

 

[spin]

so a report was submitted.

well, case closed then.

 

[logos]

Yes they are:

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.632498/

Spreading out in Syria, ISIS approaches Israel

 

[Islam Imamate]

what a shocker, jukai is defending israel supporting isis!

He made some counterpoints and he was even nice enough to number them and present a graph. How about you actually try and refute those points?

 

[logos]

It's also worth noting that the Nusra Front (AQ) is the dominant rebel faction in the Golan Heights area. But those that support Takfiri groups often invoke the FSA to deflect criticism. Not that it means much, the FSA is an umbrella group that was highjacked by blood thirsty Salafists some time ago. A major offensive was just launched to dislodge Al-Nusra from the area.

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...jor-offensive-near-golan-115021101668_1.html/

Syrian troops backed by Lebanese Hezbollah fighters swept south of the capital Damascus today, seizing strategic hills and villages from rebels and a local al-Qaida affiliate near the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.

 

[Jukai]

Yes they are:

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.632498/

ISIS is battling Syrian and FSA all over the area. They gain ground every day. Regardless, a) they still aren't close to the Israel/Syria border and b) those grounds they gained are five months later than the UN report.

The ISIS point isn't mentioned anywhere in the sourced content, it's shit.

 

[Rod1]

is anyone shocked our "allies" are supporting isis?

Yet its the US government the one sending weapons to Syria.

Yes, Israel is loving how ISIS is tearing a new one in Syria, and yes Israel is selectively attacking Hezbollah and Syrian forces while leaving the rebels alone.

But that aid pales in comparison to what the rebels are getting through the gulf states with the approval of the US.

 

[Jukai]

Yet its the US government the one sending weapons to Syria.

Yes, Israel is loving how ISIS is tearing a new one in Syria, and yet Israel is selectively attacking Hezbollah and Syrian forces while leaving the rebels alone.

But that aid pales in comparison to what the rebels are getting through the gulf states with the approval of the US.

... interesting development on the Sherdog forums.

 

[dissolved]

I read through the OP's article several times. What I got is that Israeli hospitals are treating wounded and ill Syrians in 4 hospitals in the Golan Heights area in a humanitarian effort. That and "some boxes" went into Syria from Israel.

Israel has maintained that the wounded are civilians while a minority sect of Shia Muslims (Druze) claims that some were rebel soldiers.

It appears Israel is doing humanitarian work and the Shia don't like to see this because Sunni are being treated.

That to me is the Cole's notes version.

I think there's a lot of quick negative judgement about Israel's involvement in this situation.

 

[Rod1]

I read through the OP's article several times. What I got is that Israeli hospitals are treating wounded and ill Syrians in 4 hospitals in the Golan Heights area in a humanitarian effort. That and "some boxes" went into Syria from Israel.

Israel has maintained that the wounded are civilians while a minority sect of Shia Muslims (Druze) claims that some were rebel soldiers.

It appears Israel is doing humanitarian work and the Shia don't like to see this because Sunni are being treated.

That to me is the Cole's notes version.

I think there's a lot of quick negative judgement about Israel's involvement in this situation.

Agreed, Israel is a minor player in this conflict. They may cheer gleefully at it but its the US, through the gulf arabs and Turkey the ones doing the major destabilization.

At this point the only solution is to split Syria or back Assad fully

 

[logos]

ISIS is battling Syrian and FSA all over the area. They gain ground every day. Regardless, a) they still aren't close to the Israel/Syria border and b) those grounds they gained are five months later than the UN report.

The ISIS point isn't mentioned anywhere in the sourced content, it's shit.

I guess Jihadi groups battling the Syrian government who declare loyalty to ISIS aren't actually ISIS. I'm not claiming ISIS has a stronghold in the Golan area, but nevertheless, they do have a presence. Are you okay with Israel supporting Al-Qaeda and other Takfiri groups in the region? Because they surely are. It's not surprising that during exchanges between government forces and rebels, Israel always ends up shelling SAA positions, claiming the errant round defense...lol.

Furthermore, I can certainly understand Israel not wanting Hezbollah on the GH border, but it's rather ironic that they can live with armed Al-Qaeda militants there...I wonder why?

 

[Fronk]

it's well known there is communication between idf and al-nusra in the golan. Israel is pretty desperate about keeping Hezbollah influence out of Quinetra, to the point where they are willing to cooperate with completely irrational actors like the salafist rebels. I mean the latest airstrike was aimed at stopping this fresh offensive but instead they got an even more determinated enemy. Expect to see more things if Hezbollahs influence grows along Israel-Syrian border.

 

[Jukai]

I guess Jihadi groups battling the Syrian government who declare loyalty to ISIS aren't actually ISIS. I'm not claiming ISIS has a stronghold in the Golan area, but nevertheless, they do have a presence. Are you okay with Israel supporting Al-Qaeda and other Takfiri groups in the region? Because they surely are. It's not surprising that during exchanges between government forces and rebels, Israel always ends up shelling SAA positions, claiming the errant round defense...lol.

Furthermore, I can certainly understand Israel not wanting Hezbollah on the GH border, but it's rather ironic that they can live with armed Al-Qaeda militants there...I wonder why?

They are ISIS, but they aren't at the border. And again, that event happened five months after the report was released.

Please don't respond to this if you are just going to disregard my entire post.

The reason Israel wants AQ militants rather than Hezbollah at their border is because one is firing rockets at them and one isn't. It is certainly worse for America, but it is better for Israel. I don't know why this is a hard concept.