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International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

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There’s a pretty big difference, not splitting hairs. American people want to get back to a Democratic Republic. That’s why we have the orange man and that’s why his approval ratings are so high. Meanwhile, the left keeps on trying to push lies after lies with no clear agenda. All they seem to have is orange man bad. You would think by now they could come up with something more clever.

WTF am I reading?
 
WTF am I reading?
OK, I know it might be a little too difficult for you to comprehend, so I’ll explain. The Democrats have no clear agenda other than to attack Trump. Their approval ratings are in the basement while Trump’s are high. Is there anything else you would like me to explain? I’m here for you.
 
precisely. so you're treating them like ISIS why?
Stop making shit up. You really make me wonder what kind of people you're used to hanging out with, seeing as you clearly seem to think that obvious low brow lies like that work.

And I'll tell you one thing with regards to ISIS: If they attacked Israel and Israel fought back, you and many like you would be out in the streets with your black ISIS flags and explaining to people how ISIS really aren't that bad. There aren't many things in this world that are easier to predict than that.

i side with them on this particular issue, sure. i'm not exactly crazy about iran. i like secular socialist states. that is basically the opposite of iran, though they've been pretty secular in the past.

Yeah, they've been very secular. And even a secular socialist state would probably work better than the one they have now. Well, for a while. They'd have a fair bit of oil money to pour down the drain before getting hit by the inevitable famine, I'll grant you that.

it's you calling them absolute bloodthirsty lunatics that i have the problem with. their track record is squeaky clean compared to the countries that actually have nukes.
They're not bloodthirsty lunatics? Say what now? They haven't taken absolutely insane amounts of oil money that belonged to the Iranian people and used it to fund militants across large parts of the Middle East and with that caused an unimaginable amount of suffering in the process, you mean? They haven't killed their own? They didn't help Hamas launch an attack that everyone involved knew would inevitably lead to a destroyed Gaza, with thousands upon thousands of innnocent lives lost, just so they could hurt Israel? They haven't made it blatantly obvious that to them, Palestinians is just a cheap, expendable tool in the war on their Jewish enemies?

They have the exact same disregard for Iranian lives, in case you're wondering. They even sent their own children out to manually clear minefields and called them lucky to be martyrs FFS. And how did they treat naive leftists like you, after the leftists helped them get into power? Maybe you should look that up? Oh, and on a side note, maybe you then should consider how leftists in the West are now doing the same kind of thing for Islamists here. How do you think that is going to end?
 
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@KAZSoliloquy Where we disagree is that we actively try to destabilize the ME. That's not good for business. We have had skirmishes, but that was so we could secure our interests (basically oil).
 
Iran funding terrorism and working towards getting a nuclear program doesn’t have high support either.
Cool, that doesn't mean that we need to get involved. This is Israel's problem, not ours.
 
@KAZSoliloquy Where we disagree is that we actively try to destabilize the ME. That's not good for business. We have had skirmishes, but that was so we could secure our interests (basically oil).
right but that's not possible with a stabilized, united ME. you have it completely backwards imo
 
right but that's not possible with a stabilized, united ME. you have it completely backwards imo
I'm admittedly not an expert on the very complex geopolitics of the ME. I doubt the region would be all that "stabilized" without our presence, but that's just a hunch.
 
OK, I know it might be a little too difficult for you to comprehend, so I’ll explain. The Democrats have no clear agenda other than to attack Trump. Their approval ratings are in the basement while Trump’s are high. Is there anything else you would like me to explain? I’m here for you.

What the fuck does that have to do with the US being a Republic? And Trumps approval rating in general is lower than other Presidents and is on the decline. Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
 
Stop making shit up. You really make me wonder what kind of people you're used to hanging out with, seeing as you clearly seem to think that obvious low brow lies like that work.

And I'll tell you one thing with regards to ISIS: If they attacked Israel and Israel fought back, you and many like you would be out in the streets with your black ISIS flags and explaining to people how ISIS really aren't that bad. There aren't many things in this world that are easier to predict than that.
except ISIS did fight with israel (not directly), but iran fought alongside israel and the US to defeat ISIS. i refuse to believe you don't know this. yes, im anti-western imperialism and do tend to side with countries opposing the capitalist hegemony that is a scourge on most of the world. but only on those terms.

iran mass-executed leftist dissidents and political prisoners in the 1980's, under direct orders from the supreme leader. i do not support iran. they're awful. i support iran resisting imperialist violence. big difference.
Yeah, they've been very secular. And even a secular socialist state would probably work better than the one they have now. Well, for a while. They'd have a fair bit of oil money to pour down the drain before getting hit by the inevitable famine, I'll grant you that.
funny how famine always comes to countries with unfathomable resources that choose to nationalize those resources and make them off limits to capitalist interest. i wonder what it could be.
They're not bloodthirsty lunatics? Say what now? They haven't taken absolutely insane amounts of oil money that belonged to the Iranian people and used it to fund militants across large parts of the Middle East and with that caused an unimaginable amount of suffering in the process, you mean?
well, i'd be willing to call them bloodthirsty lunatics for that. i'm willing to call anyone who does that a bloodthirsty lunatic, though. so as long as you're willing to throw the US and Israel in that pile with them, i'll concede that point. throw in the fact that israel and the US often drop the bombs themselves as well, and it's a tough hill for you to die on.
They haven't killed their own? They didn't help Hamas launch an attack that everyone involved knew would inevitably lead to a destroyed Gaza, with thousands upon thousands of innnocent lives lost, just so they could hurt Israel? They haven't made it blatantly obvious that to them, Palestinians is just a cheap, expendable tool in the war on their Jewish enemies?
their enemy is israel BECAUSE of the palestinian conflict. you realize over a million jews lived all over the middle east UNTIL the nakba happened right?
They have the exact same disregard for Iranian lives, in case you're wondering. They even sent their own children out to manually clear minefields and called them lucky to be martyrs FFS. And how did they treat naive leftists like you, after the leftists helped them get into power? Maybe you should look that up? Oh, and on a side note, maybe you then should consider how leftists in the West are now doing the same kind of thing for Islamists here? How do you think that is going to end?
brother, i'm well aware. you're mistaking my support for iran on this issue as broad support for iran.
 
Somebody correct me if im wrong in this chain of events....

Trump scrapped the Iran nuclear deal in his last administration -------> Iran as a sovereign nation chooses to continue pushing their nuclear program due to their rivals & enemies having nuclear capabilities or nefarious religious purposes both sides-------> Domestic & foriegn intelligence with the same cry as always of "they are only x amount of time away from nuclear capabilities"--------‐->US led by Trump was supposed to be working on a new deal---------> Trump is extremely busy going to UFC events playing Julius Ceasar....Embarrassing Ukraine for being invaded & not fulfilling his platform promises of ending that war on Day 1........Starting trade war with Mexico China Canada....Prioritizing South African propaganda PR stunts.....Militarization of troops to Cali for immigration -----------> Israel attacks Iran with the claim of weeks away from nuclear capabilities. All this while already in another funded war that we support with their neighbors Palestine....

Seems like a lot of foreigner policy blunders and weird prioritization if we really didn't want to get pulled into WWIII from our current US administration
 
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If they keep fucking around, Iran is going to bring back the Iron Sheik and Israel definitely doesn't want that.

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The difference Israel and Palestine/Hamas is if Hamas laid down their arms, there would be peace. If Israel laid down their arms, there would be bloodshed by sundown.
There it is. Too bad logic and reason is void in the blood thirsty radical left
 
I'm admittedly not an expert on the very complex geopolitics of the ME. I doubt the region would be all that "stabilized" without our presence, but that's just a hunch.
yeah i'm not sure it's ever been "stable" but constant regime changes and funding dozens of new rebel groups whenever they pop up is obviously not going to help. a stable, unified middle east would be disastrous for western capitalist interest.
 
There it is. Too bad logic and reason is void in the blood thirsty radical left

You are calling lefties “bloodthirsty” and not Israel? Imagine being this out of touch. MAGA crowd is in for a rude awakening when they start getting drafted for WW3 and have to go and defend Israel on foreign soil.
 
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