International Israel - Iran Conflict: PEACE DEAL CONFIRMED

Choose the following that best describes your position

  • I do not support Israel attacking Iran

    Votes: 223 61.6%

  • I support Israel attacking Iran, but do not support America becoming directly involved.

    Votes: 93 25.7%

  • I’m for America directly involving itself in the conflict.

    Votes: 46 12.7%
  • Total voters
    362
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I Am Legion said:
So Iran firing missles at Israel and constantly threatening Israel is not provocation? I don;t support Israel but FUCK IRAN.
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That's not why they attacked though. They're not even pretending it's a tit for tat attack.
 

Number of soldiers​

According to The Military Balance 2023, published by the United Kingdom-based think tank the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS):

Iran has 610,000 active personnel, including 350,000 in the army, 190,000 in the IRGC, 18,000 in the navy, 37,000 in the air force and 15,000 in air defence. Additionally, it has a reserve army of 350,000. Conscription is mandatory for Iranian men aged 18 and above, with a few exemptions.

Israel has 169,500 active personnel, including 126,000 in the army, 9,500 in the navy and 34,000 in the air force. Israel has a reserve army of 465,000. Israel mandates conscription of most young men and women above 18 years of age, with certain exemptions.

Military spending​

According to a fact sheet published by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) in April 2024:

Iran spent $10.3bn in 2023, a 0.6 percent increase from 2022.

Israel spent $27.5bn in 2023, a 24 percent increase from 2022 – a surge in part fuelled by the war on Gaza following the October 7 Hamas attacks of 2023.

Ground forces​

According to The Military Balance 2023:

Iran has at least 10,513 battle tanks, 6,798 artillery guns and more than 640 armoured personnel carriers. The army also has 50 helicopters, while the IRGC has five helicopters.

Israel has about 400 battle tanks, 530 artillery guns and more than 1,190 personnel carriers.

Air force​

According to The Military Balance 2023:

Iran: The air force has 312 combat-capable aircraft, and the IRGC has another 23. The air force has two attack helicopters, the army has 50, and the IRGC has five.

Israel has 345 combat-capable aircraft and 43 attack helicopters.

Navy​

According to The Military Balance 2023:

Iran has 17 tactical submarines, 68 patrol and coastal combatants, seven corvettes, 12 landing ships, 11 landing craft, and 18 logistics and support vehicles.

Israel has five submarines and 49 patrol and coastal combatants.

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Air defence systems​

According to The Military Balance 2023:

Israel’s air defence relies on what is known as the Iron Dome system, which is believed to have intercepted most of Iran’s missiles on Tuesday night. The system is equipped with a radar that detects an incoming projectile, as well as its speed and direction. The control centre then calculates whether the projectile poses a threat to Israeli towns. The projectiles that do not pose a threat are allowed to land in empty fields. If they pose a threat, the missile-firing unit launches missiles to shoot them down. The launcher contains 20 interceptor missiles.

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There are 10 Iron Dome batteries scattered around Israel. Other systems intercept medium and long-range missiles. The David’s Sling intercepts missiles ranging between 40km (25 miles) and 300km (186 miles). The Arrow System intercepts missiles with a range of up to 2,400km (1,491 miles).

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Iran: In February, Iran deployed the short-range, low-altitude Azarakhsh, which means “thunderbolt” in Persian. It is an infrared detection system, equipped with radar and electro-optic systems to detect and intercept targets. It can be mounted on vehicles.

Iran has a range of different surface-to-air missile defence systems. These include the over 42 long-range Russian-manufactured S-200s, S-300s and local Bavar-373; the over 59 medium-range US MIM-23 Hawk, HQ-2J and Khordad-15; and the 279 short-range Chinese-manufactured CH-SA-4 and 9K331 Tor-M1.

Ballistic missiles​

According to the Missile Defense Project of the US-based think tank the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS):

Iran has at least 12 different types of medium- and short-range ballistic missiles in its arsenal. These range from the Tondar 69, which has a range of 150km (93 miles), to the Khorramshahr and Sejjil, which range up to 2,000km (1,243 miles).

Israel has at least four different types of small, medium and intermediate-range ballistic missiles, ranging from the LORA with a range of 280km (174 miles) to the Jericho-3 with a range between 4,800km (2,983 miles) and 6,500km (4,039 miles).

Nuclear capabilities​

Israel is estimated to have 90 nuclear warheads in its stockpile, according to the US-based Arms Control Association.

Iran is unlikely to have nuclear weapons, but it has an advanced nuclear programme and operates several nuclear facilities and research centres. Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei banned the production of weapons in a religious edict or fatwa in the early 2000s, saying it is forbidden in Islam. However, in May, Iran did threaten to change its nuclear doctrine “should Iran’s existence be threatened”.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024...hat-are-their-attack-and-defence-capabilities
 
joy2day said:
lol you have no idea what you are talking about.
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I have no idea what I’m talking about? Trump said word for word the US will respond if Iran attacks US military. Are you saying he DIDNT say this? Can you read? Do you have basic reading comprehension?
 
b34stmode said:
I have no idea what I’m talking about? Trump said word for word the US will respond if Iran attacks US military. Are you saying he DIDNT say this? Can you read? Do you have basic reading comprehension?
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Actually, it is you who is struggling with comprehension, not only that, coming in aggressively because you can't talk like an adult is sad. No one is obligated to agree with your opinion. When you grow up and learn about civil discourse, we can talk. Until then, you will have to argue with some other childlike, idiotic barbarian who is willing to engage in this kind of foolish insult trading. Goodbye now.
 
avenue94 said:
I love how you call out stuxnet, even though in the long run it failed and Trump sped up Iranian proliferation after withdrawing from a binding legal agreement because dumbass.
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Stuxnet was a huge success. It worked over and over again, until it finally escaped (unintentionally) and was discovered. It blew up many Iranian centrifuges and scientists. It did exactly what it was designed to do and they never figured it out on their own. It was over engineered, escaped, and then was discovered. Why would you call it a failure?
 
Ezekiel 25:17 said:
I dont hate anything. I simply believe that what they are doing is the lowest of the low. They have a maniacal leader who is legit hell bent on wiping people out. Doesnt matter who gets wiped out in the process.
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The difference Israel and Palestine/Hamas is if Hamas laid down their arms, there would be peace. If Israel laid down their arms, there would be bloodshed by sundown.
 
Bwagster said:
The difference Israel and Palestine/Hamas is if Hamas laid down their arms, there would be peace. If Israel laid down their arms, there would be bloodshed by sundown.
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I'm sure that comfort blanket of an argument feels nice, but it's utter bullshit. Israel is open and honest about its intentions to continue settling and displacing Palestinians for the foreseeable future.
 
Whippy McGee said:
Stuxnet was a huge success. It worked over and over again, until it finally escaped (unintentionally) and was discovered. It blew up many Iranian centrifuges and scientists. It did exactly what it was designed to do and they never figured it out on their own. It was over engineered, escaped, and then was discovered. Why would you call it a failure?
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Trump pulling out of the agreement and assassinating Qasem Soleimani during his first term clearly escalated tensions in the region to a whole new level and probably was the main factor that provoked the Oct 7th attacks.

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KAZSoliloquy said:
so does russia. where are all the bombs aimed at russia?
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Have you tried removing whatever brain matter is left inside your skull and replacing it with a bowl of stew? Maybe it would help? Russia isn't run by a group of religious psychos who literally value the afterlife over this one and have not only openly sworn to annihilate an entire country, but have diligently worked towards achieving that goal for nearly half a century now. That kind of makes a wee bit of a difference here, don't you think?

Also, we can't stop Russia from having nukes for the simple reason that they already do. That fact also lets them get away with a lot of things they probably otherwise wouldn't. In light of this and what I just touched upon, what do you think would be best? To stop Iranian leaders from having nukes before they have them, or after?
 
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Bwagster said:
The difference Israel and Palestine/Hamas is if Hamas laid down their arms, there would be peace. If Israel laid down their arms, there would be bloodshed by sundown.
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There definitely wouldn't be lmao
 
Sir Punchalot said:
Have you tried removing whatever brain matter is left inside your skull and replacing it with a bowl of stew? Maybe it would help? Russia isn't run by a group of religious psychos who literally value the afterlife over this one and have not only openly sworn to annihilate an entire country, but have diligently worked towards achieving that goal for nearly half a century now. That kind of makes wee bit of a difference here, don't you think?
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i mean yeah that doesn't describe russia. it also doesn't describe iran.
Sir Punchalot said:
Also, we can't stop Russia from having nukes for the simple reason that they already do. That fact also lets them get away with a lot of things they probably otherwise wouldn't. In light of this and what I just touched upon, what do you think would be best? To stop Iranian leaders from having nukes before they have them, or after?
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so russia can continue having nukes even though they support US-designated terror groups, but iran can't. i'm not seeing where you are confused. do you think everyone in iran is ISIS or something? i think iran having nukes would stop a lot of violence in the middle east personally.
 
b34stmode said:
Yes I agree. I’m just pointing out the insane hypocrisy from Trumpers. See how quickly Cottage went from condemning the attack by Israel to somewhat supporting it after Trump came out and stated he knew and signed off on the attacks? You would think the MAGGET crowd would get a backbone and start calling Don the Con out. But apparently not.
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I didn’t change my stance in a hypocritical way. I said if Israel did this without trump knowing, and undermined him, it was an issue. It was then revealed that was not the case.

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