Israel antisemitism vs the left

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Piggybacking off the George Soros thread-

I see people openly bashing Isreal and then in the George Soros thread for example, people bashing far-right Nazis as the reason for antisemitism. Can someone explain how this works?
 
Soros is like a mini Rothschild for anti Semites.
 
Pretty sure anti semitism is a lot worse than just bashing israel. Neo nazis are worse than dirt anyways, fuck em and their right wing apologists.
 
I don't understand this thread but fuck Israel for what they're doing to the Palestinians and fuck George Soros.

Being critical of Israel =/= Antisemitism
 
Right wing anti semitism and left wing antisemites both intersect at the point of "jewish influence" topic. And claims of occupied governments by "zionists". I have seen left wingers who are against nationalism, racial or ethnic nationalism and are far left say and parot talking ppints that "zionists" and money powers are behind _______ stuff. Many left wing regionalist or non nationalist parties in europe or elsewhere often adopt the dislike to Israel either out of belief that sunni arabs in and around israel are somehow victims or because sticking it to Israel is a way to hurt "zionist" power.

Right wing antisemitism varies more and seems to now largely be a islamic (islam is right wing ideology) or nazi fanboys type thing. It varies between biological antisemitism or cultural/religious with the islamists disliking jews on the basis of "zionism" and their religion and the nazi types disliking jews as competing entity against 'aryan' power and see and project antisemitism in both the ethnic and religious sense similar to the nazis.

Then there is right wingers who are pro israel as a nationalist entity but dislike liberal jewry and so called globalists (hungary, brazil, US, czech and austria) among other parties in countries like russia to canada. I dont believe globalist is an antisemitic term and believe pretending it is just weakens the meaning of antisemitism. In any case soros is an atheist and judging a white guy on the basis of ethnic identity via a jewish mother just seems so wrong and 3rd reich like. So i dont take notice or care of soros jewish roots. He clearly isnt religious and states so.

I think now right wing antisemitism once you excluded the islamic element is weaker then left wing. Because right wing parties and Israels government are increasingly building ties with right wing states and finding common ground on the issues and problens of islam, borders and low iq invaders and yes the globalist tranny soulless overly materialistic ideology peddled by people like obama and soros. In addition actual irreligious and non traditionalists (left wingers) are antithetical to what Israel represents. The far left obama and soros types wants an open borders world and no nationalism and for religion to die and for trannies and other stuff to be accepted and Israel (like russia or china or most of the non western world) is the opposite of the left wing dream). Lastly modern christians are not prone to antisemitisn on a large scale. They share the same islamist enemy the jews do and both orthorox/right wing jews and christians stand up for true western values that arent islamist or liberal globalist.
 
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Both the left and the right have their issues with Israel. The left seems to have a more hostile opinion of Israel though.
 
Right wing anti semitism and left wing antisemites both intersect at the point of "jewish influence" topic. And claims of occupied governments by "zionists". I have seen left wingers who are against nationalism, racial or ethnic nationalism and are far left say and parot talking ppints that "zionists" and money powers are behind _______ stuff. Many left wing regionalist or non nationalist parties in europe or elsewhere often adopt the dislike to Israel either out of belief that sunni arabs in and around israel are somehow victims or because sticking it to Israel is a way to hurt "zionist" power.

Right wing antisemitism varies more and seems to now largely be a islamic (islam is right wing ideology) or nazi fanboys type thing. It varies between biological antisemitism or cultural/religious with the islamists disliking jews on the basis of "zionism" and their religion and the nazi types disliking jews as competing entity against 'aryan' power and see and project antisemitism in both the ethnic and religious sense similar to the nazis.

Then there is right wingers who are pro israel as a nationalist entity but dislike liberal jewry and so called globalists (hungary, brazil, US, czech and austria) among other parties in countries like russia to canada. I dont believe globalist is an antisemitic term and believe pretending it is just weakens the meaning of antisemitism. In any case soros is an atheist and judging a white guy on the basis of ethnic identity via a jewish mother just seems so wrong and 3rd reich like. So i dont take notice or care of soros jewish roots. He clearly isnt religious and states so.

I think now right wing antisemitism once you excluded the islamic element is weaker then left wing. Because right wing parties and Israels government are increasingly building ties with right wing states and finding common ground on the issues and problens of islam, borders and low iq invaders and yes the globalist tranny soulless overly materialistic ideology peddled by people like obama and soros. In addition actual irreligious and non traditionalists (left wingers) are antithetical to what Israel represents. The far left wants an open borders world and no nationalism and for religion to die and for trannies and other stuff to be accepted and Israel (like russia or china or most of the non western world) is the opposite of the left wing dream). Lastly modern christians are not prone to antisemitisn on a large scale. They share the same islamic enemy the jews do and both jews and christians have been more present and tolerant in western secular society.

How can you even question Israel's influence over our government when Trump is selling this country out for the Saudis?
 
Both the left and the right have their issues with Israel. The left seems to have a more hostile opinion of Israel though.

Lol, you must have never met a real wood.

Not these neo-nazi wannabe's, but actual woods.

Many on the left hate Israeli influence, and Israeli policy. Many on the right are non-interventionist, and see our support of Israel as not in our interest.

Only one group actually hates Jews, and agrees with Hitler, and they are on the right. Given, the extreme right, without very many supporters, bit none the less, on the right
 
How can you even question Israel's influence over our government when Trump is selling this country out for the Saudis?

Its obvious the people in your militsry complex and intelligence and congfess view the interests align that is why. Trump is not an israeli neither is your secreetary of state or defense or the military brass. Israel is an ally of yours. Saudis are more of a temporary ally it seems but since iran is seen as the bigger threat it pays to have saudi on your side since they are a major wealthy and arab sunni power.
 
Its obvious the people in your militsry complex and intelligence and congfess view the interests align that is why. Trump is not an israeli neither is your secreetary of state or defense or the military brass. Israel is an ally of yours. Saudis are more of a temporary ally it seems but since iran is seen as the bigger threat it pays to have saudi on your side since they are a major wealthy and arab sunni power.

But it's a business transaction right?

Well, Irans natural resources make Iran 1000 times more rich, then Israel could ever be.

So why is it with Saudi it is a business transaction, but with Iran it is something else?

Can you explain that please?
 
But it's a business transaction right?

Well, Irans natural resources make Iran 1000 times more rich, then Israel could ever be.

So why is it with Saudi it is a business transaction, but with Iran it is something else?

Can you explain that please?

Because of irans geopolitical aspirations. And anti US sentiment. I mean you can believe what you want. To me as an outsider it makes sense given Iran's behavior towards the US and her ally Israel. I think the long term US geopolitical goal is to turn on saudis and pakistan after Iran is dealt with. I think its a short term alliance.
 
I don't understand this thread but fuck Israel for what they're doing to the Palestinians and fuck George Soros.

Being critical of Israel =/= Antisemitism

actually, you seem to understand it better than the TS does.
 
I don't understand this thread but fuck Israel for what they're doing to the Palestinians and fuck George Soros.

Being critical of Israel =/= Antisemitism

As a jew, yes. This. Israel has a lot of issues to condemn without hating the general populace.
 
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