News Israel Adesanya is no longer part of the UFC P4P-Rankings

[ticho123]

Hard to argue that he should be on a p4p list right now

 

[World eater]

Happens to everyone.
He had a good run.

 

[KarateYeah]

Yes just because it's Izzy

 

[Kwic]

You can’t be 1-3 and feasibly be in the P4P rankings.

Izzy needs to win a fight before you start handing this dude another title shot.

Well, I think you still could in theory if your 3 loses were super close and to 3 people that are on p4p list

 

[Guy LeDouche]

Well, I think you still could in theory if your 3 loses were super close and to 3 people that are on p4p list

Super close losses sadly aren’t wins.
No one will remember a super close loss, they will remember who won the fight.

At the end of the day the goal is to still win. And to be regarded in the category of guys who are the best at winning. That means Adesanya needs to
…well…win a fight.

 

[Senzo Tanaka]

I mean P4P means your style translates to any weight. He failed at moving up and lost convincingly. He also lost to 3 different styles of fighters now. He’s not P4P.

 

[Goutfather]

ufc doggin’ muh dawg, dawg!

 

[TempleoftheDog]

Usman out too. That’s how it should be. If only they could quit having guys on actual losing streaks being ranked in the top 5. Then they’d be ON the way to fixing the rankings in general.

 

[blaseblase]

I for one am shocked. It's only been a year and 8 months since he won a fight. I thought it had been longer than that. Typically they will let these guys hang out for multiple years in the rankings. Hopefully things are changing for the better.

 

[Neck&Neck]

 

[SuperAlly]

Some of the racists on here will be in tears

Good

 

[Dr Fong]

This is part of why their whole "Champ automatically vaults to the top of P4P" kinda bites them in the ass.

If you live by that logic, then when Sean beats longtime champ Izzy, you go "Of course Sean should be higher, he's the champ." And then when he falls at the first hurdle and DDP becomes champ, you go "Of course he should be over both" without reevaluating where Sean goes.

The very point of P4P goes against the idea that "I beat like 20 people, but you beat me, so you're automatically P4P better." If Chael didn't get tapped by Silva, would anyone seriously have been going "There goes the P4P best fighter in the world, Chael Sonnen"? Nah, that's not how it works

Yeah, it makes much more sense to just keep guys in the P4P rankings in perpetuity based on past accomplishments.

Adesanya has been finished twice and made to look like an amateur in 3 of his last 4 fights. He was also losing the 4th fight before the comeback finish.

How many decisive losses do you want him to have before he drops out of the rankings? 40?

 

[Pechan]

This is part of why their whole "Champ automatically vaults to the top of P4P" kinda bites them in the ass.

If you live by that logic, then when Sean beats longtime champ Izzy, you go "Of course Sean should be higher, he's the champ." And then when he falls at the first hurdle and DDP becomes champ, you go "Of course he should be over both" without reevaluating where Sean goes.

The very point of P4P goes against the idea that "I beat like 20 people, but you beat me, so you're automatically P4P better." If Chael didn't get tapped by Silva, would anyone seriously have been going "There goes the P4P best fighter in the world, Chael Sonnen"? Nah, that's not how it works

P4P is nonsense, its just something for marketing to use and personalities to talk about on their podcast.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Yeah, it makes much more sense to just keep guys in the P4P rankings in perpetuity based on past accomplishments.

Adesanya has been finished twice and made to look like an amateur in 3 of his last 4 fights. He was also losing the 4th fight before the comeback finish.

How many decisive losses do you want him to have before he drops out of the rankings? 40?

P4P rankings ARE affected much more incrementally than divisional ones, which can change on a hair. And I guess you didn't happen to notice 2 of those losses were to guys also on the P4P list, eh?

 

[Sakuraba'sEar]

What's up with these ads in the middle of messages

 

[HatKick]

Hard to argue with

 

[justmark]

It’s sad day in MMA history

As a representative of the LGBTQ community I can confirm that we are in shock and sorrow now.

 

[Dorkman]

It’s sad day in MMA history

It's comes for all of them at some point. He hit some pretty amazing heights.

 

[Xoleth]

It is normal, there were 3 MWs ranked

Yet, Aljo is there
Why?
He is ranked 8 at FW

I would have expected Fig, who was a defending champion and is 3-0 in another division.
Or even Merab, having such a good winning streak.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

P4P is nonsense, its just something for marketing to use and personalities to talk about on their podcast.

Yeah, but any fictional universe is expected to have some rules to it. If we were both sitting here arguing about whether you can decapitate a vampire to kill it and someone came up and went "Vampires aren't real," it's not like that would be some revealing info to us. We know that, but there is published material on this stuff