ISPs say they can’t expand broadband unless gov’t gives them more money

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  1. Falsedawn

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    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...t-only-to-get-more-money-from-the-government/

    ISPs say they can’t expand broadband unless gov’t gives them more money

    Industry asks for handouts, arguing that broadband is essential—like a utility.

    Please excuse the brevity of my commentary, I just don't have the fucking words. The fucking balls on these pieces of shit. Subsidize the costs, privatize the benefits.

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    Fuck those fuckers.
     
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    Darth_Inv1ctu5 I will shit on everything you love

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    Support local ISPs. Lots of small local fiber providers are popping up around the country. As soon as one shows up in my part of Jerz, out goes the FiOS contract.

    These degenerates play super filthy. Fuck em.
     
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    Should be more free-municipal internet in cities to push these crony capitalists out.
     
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    Why don't you have optimum?
     
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    Falsedawn Mansa Platinum Member

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    Support Net Neutrality rules. They want to be funded like utilities, then let's fucking regulate them like it. Mandate that they upgrade or die. If you want to be an Internet Service Provider, you bring Gigabit fiber to the table or we'll give your lines to someone who will. I'm tired of watching our money and good will spent on bad promises and bullshit. Put them to the sword and see what really matters to the dickheads.
     
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    Seems like U.S download speeds have improved... Just sayin:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/14/net-neutrality-us-ranking/
     
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    Darth_Inv1ctu5 I will shit on everything you love

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    They don't do my neighborhood. And in honesty my service is fine - but I know I'm getting fleeced. That's why I'd switch.
     
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    Alex Jones tried warning us about these globalist SCUMBAGS. BUT YOU DIDNT LISTEN
     
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    Unless ISPs have engaged in widespread infrastructure campaigns since the rules were repealed (like, literally the day they were repealed) they haven't been repealed long enough for any functional change to have happened in fixed broadband speeds.

    This is proven in the bullshit that the NCTA (the very lobbying group that peddles this trash) put out.

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    Speeds have been steadily increasing before, during, and after Net Neutrality came into play, so attributing it to the repeal is straight up bullshit. Opponents of Net Neutrality cried to the heavens that speeds would decrease if the rules were implemented and clearly they didn't. If anything, this is more of an illustration of the ISPs dragging their feet than any regulatory burden.

    The OP should cement that for you. They want the benefits of both sides of the issue without having any skin in the game. And for the record, less than 100Mbps average in 2018 when we paid for fiber in the 90s is absolutely abhorrent. You're giving them pats on the back for dragging their feet when we should be number one by far if they hadn't pocketed the money we paid them to do it.

    Edit: Then there's also this from the mouths of the devils themselves.

    https://arstechnica.com/information...-investment-according-to-the-isps-themselves/

     
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    To be fair, this is the ideal administration to try that ploy with.
     
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    Falsedawn Mansa Platinum Member

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    Ajit Pai is going to basically be public enemy number one at the end of this if he isn't already. His entire tenure as head of the FCC has been filled with duplicity, bad policy, and gaslighting. I sincerely hope all of the bad things in this world happen to him, and nobody else.
     
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    As I've said for years, if it's worth supporting libraries with tax dollars then internet access should make sense too. But not by giving handouts to for-profit businesses.
     
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    Those cock knockers have already taken over $200 billion and didn’t use a dime of it to expand their networks. Now they want more money.
    Fuck off.
    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5839394

    Starting an independent ISP is damn near impossible. Google gave up expanding their fiber network because trying to get their stuff on a pole is a bureaucratic swamp.
    For example, if you want to put your wires on a pole, you have to contact the company that already has wires on the pole to move theirs. There’s been many stories about a 1+ year quote on waiting time to move the wires.
    There was another story, I believe it was AT&T, that cut an independent ISP’s wires “by accident”. Then they drug their feet on fixing the wires.
    There wasnt even a point of the indie guy suing, AT&T would just bleed him dry with lawyer bills.

    If you dig into the shady stuff ISP’s pull and are allowed to get away with, you will be flabbergasted.
    For anyone interested in stories like this and other shady ISP stuff, there’s a YouTube channel called Level1Techa that covers stories like this all the time.
    Video below doesn’t have anything relevant to the OP, It’s more of a link to there channel.
     
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    That would make @JamesRussler ‘s thread a lot more interesting
     
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    I've been saying this for a while – internet media giants want to be regulated. It gives them a reason to ignore market demands and practically guarantees that they turn a profit.
     
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    The wealthy have always been the biggest takers in his country by a country mile.
     
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    Trump admin will cave to these fuckers
     
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