Islam has gassed before. Is he gonna bulk up for WW?

[Goat Poster]

Islam clearly gassed in the last round of the 1st Volkanovski fight. He managed to finish Dustin in the 5th but I think he spent more time on top control and less scrambling.

How risky is it for him to try to put on more mass? Should he even do it? He weighed in 177 in a fight night at 155 so he probably walks around 185-190. Should he really try to get bigger? Or should he just cut from like that 185-190 range and have an easier cut? Maybe even just 180 so you don't risk it.

It is interesting because if you're gonna fight JDM one would think you want to put on mass because you are gonna employ a grappling heavy plan but on the other time he has a history of gassing. Also when Burns gassed JDM took him out in no time so who knows...


Should he really put on more mass? I trust the team to make the right decision and it is if course more based on his body than a specific opponent but they could make a mistake, they're not perfect.
He could look huge and gas on the 4th round or he could look the same and not be strong enough.

My take is to don't even try to bulk up, diet a bit but less than at 155 and start the cut at like 180-182. Keep it somewhat familiar in cage weight so you don't carry to much around but you cut half the weight.
What do the sherscientists say? UberIslam or EconoIslam? Or should he pull a Jones and just be fat?

 

[Spacebadger]

He gassed because he didnt have time to rehydrate, Mak has his good and bad days in LW, its probrably due to the weight cut and unproper hydration, but in WW its probrably 100% full powered Abu Dhabi Makhachev.

Think of Alex Pereira in MW, and Alex Pereira in LHW.

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

Islam clearly gassed in the last round of the 1st Volkanovski fight. He managed to finish Dustin in the 5th but I think he spent more time on top control and less scrambling.

How risky is it for him to try to put on more mass? Should he even do it? He weighed in 177 in a fight night at 155 so he probably walks around 185-190. Should he really try to get bigger? Or should he just cut from like that 185-190 range and have an easier cut? Maybe even just 180 so you don't risk it.

It is interesting because if you're gonna fight JDM one would think you want to put on mass because you are gonna employ a grappling heavy plan but on the other time he has a history of gassing. Also when Burns gassed JDM took him out in no time so who knows...

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Should he really put on more mass? I trust the team to make the right decision and it is if course more based on his body than a specific opponent but they could make a mistake, they're not perfect.
He could look huge and gas on the 4th round or he could look the same and not be strong enough.

My take is to don't even try to bulk up, diet a bit but less than at 155 and start the cut at like 180-182. Keep it somewhat familiar in cage weight so you don't carry to much around but you cut half the weight.
What do the sherscientists say? UberIslam or EconoIslam? Or should he pull a Jones and just be fat?

You know why?
Because in Perth Australia, they don't let you fully recover after weight cut like they do in the USA, you get 10 hours less, so of course he felt it.

 

[volcom5]

Uh…..according to a group of Makhachev lovers, he walks around at 200+ lbs. Lol. So using their inside knowledge of Makhachevs weight, I don’t think he’s going to have trouble making weight or gassing.

 

[Goat Poster]

He gassed because he didnt have time to rehydrate, Mak has his good and bad days in LW, its probrably due to the weight cut and unproper hydration, but in WW its probrably 100% full powered Abu Dhabi Makhachev.

Think of Alex Pereira in MW, and Alex Pereira in LHW.

You know why?
Because in Perth Australia, they don't let you fully recover after weight cut like they do in the USA, you get 10 hours less, so of course he felt it.

I am not denying the austalia regulations thing was a factor but fighting in Australia is not like fighting at altitude. He gassed guys.

He prepared for a 5 round fight and gassed. Other people prepared for 3 and didn't gas. Big Boy Dricus finished Adesanya in the 4th and he seems to cut 30+ lbs so it's not like you're guaranteed to gas.

But it may be a bigger factor in him gassing out in the Volk fight than the pace of the fight and it was the excuse he gave so I should have included that in the 1st post.

 

[AL-Tappo McSnappo]

I am not denying the austalia regulations thing was a factor but fighting in Australia is not like fighting at altitude. He gassed guys.

He prepared for a 5 round fight and gassed. Other people prepared for 3 and didn't gas. Big Boy Dricus finished Adesanya in the 4th and he seems to cut 30+ lbs so it's not like you're guaranteed to gas.

But it may be a bigger factor in him gassing out in the Volk fight than the pace of the fight and it was the excuse he gave so I should have included that in the 1st post.

Islam beats Jack same way he did Hooker, he beats ilia by a knock out by knees to the jaw, or submission. If it goes the distance, i like ilia chance of winning.

 

[Alpha_T83]

In theory he should be cutting less weight at 170 pounds regardless of bulking up a bit.

 

[XociDe]

Moving up is a huge mistake from Islam imo. A near-retirement DP was stuffing his takedowns after the second round, and JDM has elite TDD/scrambles.

 

[-Magua-]

Doubt it, reckon his cardio will be better not having to cut so much weight.
I bet his walk around is 190/195ish.

 

[loisestrad]

Doubt it, reckon his cardio will be better not having to cut so much weight.
I bet his walk around is 190/195ish.

Good shit: If one cuts they're at a disadvantage. That's why they cut. They wanna challenge themselves.

 

[Ayreon]

Genetics is crazy

You live and train in the mountains in altidute with the purest air you can breathe, you eat, sleep and repeate and still.. you gas in 20 minutes of fighting.

That sucks

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Maybe he'll pull a Hendricks/Gastelum and cut the same amount while eating much more

 

[SalvadorAllende]

Doubt it, reckon his cardio will be better not having to cut so much weight.
I bet his walk around is 190/195ish.

Not only the cut itself but the diet coming into fight night.
I honestly don't know how some of these guys perform after weeks of being in caloric deficits.

 

[Skarsgard]

You know why?
Because in Perth Australia, they don't let you fully recover after weight cut like they do in the USA, you get 10 hours less, so of course he felt it.

Eh. Islam got away with using an IV for that fight, so that one is a little grey.

 

[b00tysweat]

TS says Islam 'gassed' in a 5 round fight he won.

 

[Poirierfan]

Moving up is a huge mistake from Islam imo. A near-retirement DP was stuffing his takedowns after the second round, and JDM has elite TDD/scrambles.

I agreed until you said elite.

 

[Poirierfan]

Doubt it, reckon his cardio will be better not having to cut so much weight.
I bet his walk around is 190/195ish.

In wrestling nothing would gas you faster than having to wrestle a bigger guy. Imo Islam will get more winded than usual no matter how good his weight cut goes.

 

[richardjohnson]

Eh. Islam got away with using an IV for that fight, so that one is a little grey.

Do you have some sound evidence to support your claim or is this just your way of coping with the result of that fight?

 

[Skarsgard]

Do you have some sound evidence to support your claim or is this just your way of coping with the result of that fight?

The quickly deleted admission from his team and the puncture mark over his vein are plenty enough for me.
Why would anyone cope over a close fight that could have gone to either guy?

 

[richardjohnson]

The quickly deleted admission from his team and the puncture mark over his vein are plenty enough for me.
Why would anyone cope over a close fight that could have gone to either guy?

So you take the word of a guy who is a known bullshitter and was on the other side of the world because he can’t leave the US? Nice. Let me know when you have real evidence bud.