Thread Index: Turkey's Syria advance leaves Europe with foreign fighter dilemma (Oct 13, 2019) U.S. military takes custody of British ISIS terrorists known as the 'Beatles' (Oct 9 2019) As ISIS Fighters Fill Prisons in Syria, Their Home Nations Look Away (July 18, 2018) Months after the fall of ISIS, Europe has done little to take back its fighters (June 20, 2019) Canada's Trudeau under pressure after Britain revokes citizenship of 'Jihadi Jack' (Aug 19, 2019) Canada 'disappointed' at Britain for stripping ISIS fighter's citizenship (Aug 19, 2019) Jihadi Jack: Isis fighter stripped of British citizenship by Home Office (August 18, 2019) Canada urged U.K. not to strip 'Jihadi Jack' of citizenship ( Aug 20, 2019) How Europe Is Handing Off Its ISIS Militants to Iraq (June 15, 2019) Iraq sentences all 11 French ISIS suspects to death (June 04, 2019) Their parents joined ISIS. They were raised in the caliphate. Can they come home? (Feb 17, 2019) Tooba Gondal: Female British Isis recruiter asks to return to UK saying ‘we just want a normal life’ (April 2, 2019) German woman who joined Isis faces murder charge for 'letting five-year-old slave girl die of thirst' (April 2, 2019) British ISIS bride Shamima Begum's newborn son has died in Syria (March 8, 2019) Shamima Begum stripped of British citizenship after showing no remorse for fleeing to wed IS fighter (Feb 20, 2019) Shamima Begum, British Woman Who Joined ISIS in Syria, Wants to Come Home (Feb. 14, 2019) France scrambles to move French ISIS detainees out of Syria ahead of U.S. withdrawal (Jan 29, 2019) Canada in political bind over whether to bring alleged ISIS fighters like 'Jihadi Jack' home (October 23, 2018) Canada has 'a legal obligation' to repatriate citizens who left to fight for ISIS, says UN rapporteur (Oct 30, 2018) France to repatriate ISIS fighters' children as UK mulls plan for four British minors in Syria (Oct 24, 2018) 'US barked and UK cowed': MPs attack government for dropping death penalty opposition for Isis militants (Oct 11, 2018) UK has no legal obligations towards Isis suspects, court told (Oct 2018) ‘I just want to go back’: Canadian ISIS fighter captured in northern Syria speaks out (October 10th, 2018) ‘I’m going to die here’: Wives of ISIS fighters want to return home to Canada (October 11, 2018) Op/Ed: Britain must uphold its commitment to human rights in case of 'ISIS Beatles' (July 24, 2018) Grandstanding in the Commons over the ISIS Beatles (July 24, 2018) Dozens of convicted terrorists are about to be released in Britain (July 30, 2018) Islamic State ‘Beatles’ case: Britain criticized for ‘outsourcing’ justice system to the U.S. (July 27, 2018) ‘The Beatles’ ISIS Members: U.K. Suspends Intelligence Cooperation After Lawsuit (July 26, 2018) UK facing legal action over 'unlawful' decision not to protect Isis 'Beatles' from death penalty (July 24, 2018) Amber Rudd ‘perplexed’ by decision to give US option to potentially execute British-born jihadists (July 28, 2018) Isis Beatles: UK 'must not let standards slip' in face of terror, Ken Clarke warns (July 23, 2018) Sajid Javid drops UK's blanket opposition to death penalty to allow two Isis fighters to be sent to U.S (July 23, 2018) Just 1 in 10 British Jihadis Returning From Syria and Iraq Have Been Prosecuted (June 13, 2018) ISIS fighters known as 'the Beatles' demand trial in the U.K (April 9, 2018) Britain 'wants assurances from America that it won't seek the death penalty for captured Beatles ISIS jihadists (March 1, 2018) Britain Presses U.S. to Avoid Death Penalty for ISIS Suspects (Feb. 28, 2018) U.K Government does not want captured Isis ‘Beatles’ returned to Britain for trial, says Gavin Williamson (February, 14 2018) The captured ISIS fighters that nobody wants (Feb 13, 2018) The captured ISIS fighters that nobody wants Analysis by Nick Paton Walsh, CNN | February 13, 2018 The final stages of the anti-ISIS battle swept up a large number of ISIS fighters, including many foreigners. Some may have been allowed to leave Raqqa, the so-called capital of the caliphate, in the final deal agreed between the Syrian Kurds and ISIS to reduce civilian casualties, under which dozens of ISIS fighters, foreign and Syrian, fled with civilians into the desert. Other ISIS fighters have been on the run longer. Some are unknown players, but some are also noted criminals, like the so-called "Beatles" -- British ISIS fighters who taunted western audiences as they tortured and executed bound, unarmed hostages kneeling before them. Notably, five days after their capture, the UK has made no public statement about what it wants to do with the two surviving "Beatles," named by US intelligence sources as El Shafee Elsheikh and Alexanda Kotey. There is clearly a reluctance to put them on public trial in the UK. Perhaps it is out of a fear that it would give them a platform for their extremist beliefs. But there is also a risk of failure -- it may be hard to gather convincing evidence of crimes committed in a far away land. The remains of many victims have yet to be located. There is one possible solution. When US forces detain someone on the anti-ISIS battlefield, they sometimes hand them over to Iraqi security forces. Iraq is the only functional state where ISIS has territory, and with which the US has a diplomatic relationship. They have also been trying those ISIS fighters caught in their territory quickly and putting many on death row. Many detainees may have been to Iraq as well as Syria, perhaps putting their conduct under Iraqi jurisdiction. In the meantime, the legal complications are mounting -- as is the number of detainees -- in a detention facility that's far from ideal. It is extraordinary that after nearly 17 years since the September 11 attacks, and after four years combating ISIS at home and abroad, Europe's capitals still stumble when working out what to do with this latest variation of defeated extremist. Let me get this straight: Politicians in liberal Europe refuses to strip Citizenship from their own terrorists who fought for ISIS, yet don't want anything to do with the aforementioned Citizens after they're captured? I better not see any fake outrage from those countries when their home-grown jihadists start swinging from the ropes, after they refused to do anything about it. Update: What the fuck?! Britain isn't confident that their justice system is robust enough to deal with with own British-born terrorist, and now they want to give us instruction on how to do the job?