Is Werdum a harder match up for Cain than JDS was thought to be?

[EJRMAN513]

I say yes. JDS was a hard match for Cain in their fights because his style of good boxing, destructive KO power and damn good wrestling defense could've countered Cain's style of wrestling and good MMA striking that was used mostly to set up his wrestling and an unmatched pace. Obviously alot of this was disproved with Cain out striking JDS in their last 2 fights and not even relying on the TD to win but more so the fear of the TD but still though if anybody's going to counter Cain's style it's going to be a good striker with above average wrestling defense.

With Werdum it's a whole different ball game. Werdum's style doesn't exactly counter Cain's but if Werdum has it his way and Cain isn't 100% prepared for what Werdum can throw at him, Cain's style could instead play right into Werdum's whole gameplan. Werdum doesn't have to fear the TD because of his uber BJJ game if Cain was to take him down so he can pretty much throw all the strikes he needs to in order to attempt to win the stand up(I think Cain does have the better stand up but Werdum's striking is ever improving). Also one of Cain's main weapons against JDS was his clinch game and dirty boxing. With Werdum, he's not going to be afraid to pull guard if Cain tries that gameplan so I pretty much see the clinch game being a non factor as far as trying to grind out a win here(the Muay Thai is a different story though).

That all being said I do think Cain will win and if anyone is capable and has the potential to stifle Werdum's BJJ it is Cain but overall this match-up is very intriguing and I think this could be Cain's biggest challenge yet. What says you Sherdog?

 

[Kalmah]

You say yes, I say no. You say stop and I say go go go, oh no. You say goodbye and I say hello.

 

[iwhoopedbatman]

It's been so long since I've seen Cain fight anyone who isn't JDS or Bigfoot, I'm not even sure what to expect. Although there was a picture of him in some DC thread and Cain looked like a flabby tub. Hope he's taking this serious.

 

[the can]

unlikely. cain via tko in the 2nd

 

[iwhoopedbatman]

You say yes, I say no. You say stop and I say go go go, oh no. You say goodbye and I say hello.

Hello, hello. I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello.

 

[schwe30]

I say high, you say low. You say why and I say I don't know, oh no. You say goodbye and I say hello.

 

[Level One]

Werdum is better in the clinch and better on the ground, he's also taller and longer and he has good enough stand up to make it a pretty interesting fight.

I would still bet on Cain because he's an animal but I wouldn't be shocked if Werdum won.

 

[EJRMAN513]

It's been so long since I've seen Cain fight anyone who isn't JDS or Bigfoot, I'm not even sure what to expect. Although there was a picture of him in some DC thread and Cain looked like a flabby tub. Hope he's taking this serious.

He's been out for awhile and he eats whatever he wants even when he's in fight camp. I'm sure he'll be fine once fight time comes in 3 months.

 

[dog y]

One big difference that TS seems to disregard is JDS' incredible chin and overall durability.

 

[RoosterVerde]

Unless cain's in better shape than he looks he might actually get outworked

 

[Sturmryder**]

JDS has a better chin, JDS has more dangerous striking, but Werdum is better everywhere else.

However....

Cain will most likely crack his chin and grind him to death against the cage, I doubt he'll risk going to the mat with him.

 

[Schoolboy Q]

JDS is a better fighter than Werdum and was a tougher match up than werdum as well. Cain finishes this fight in the very first round.

 

[reflecttcelfer]

It's been so long since I've seen Cain fight anyone who isn't JDS or Bigfoot, I'm not even sure what to expect. Although there was a picture of him in some DC thread and Cain looked like a flabby tub. Hope he's taking this serious.

Yeah. It's closing on 4 years since he fought someone other than those two. Sort of crazy. I'm in the same boat as you: at this point it's hard to even say what Cain will look like in there.

 

[eternaldarkness]

both cain and junior are fairly one dimensional strikers(punchers) whereas werdum is know for his knees. this may affect the outcome. what is cain's thai boxing defence like?

 

[EJRMAN513]

One big difference that TS seems to disregard is JDS' incredible chin and overall durability.

JDS most probably is more durable than Werdum and the rest of the division but that doesn't mean Werdum isn't durable and the only time he's been KOed was from the uppercut from hell from JDS himself but other than that his chin has looked fine. Also I think Werdum has the necessary tools to not have his chin and durability tested as much as JDSs. For example; one of JDSs main defensive ways of defending takedowns his keeping his hands low and just shrugging takedowns off which pretty much leaves him open for his chin to be tested. Werdum will not give a fuck about the wrestling of Cain so there's no reason he shouldn't be fully focused on properly defending the strikes of Cain.

 

[Kalmah]

both cain and junior are fairly one dimensional strikers(punchers) whereas werdum is know for his knees. this may affect the outcome. what is cain's thai boxing defence like?

Cain's a wrestler, not a striker.

 

[BJJ Goku**]

I don't think so.

JDS always imposes real risk of getting ko'd.

Werdum imposes a real risk of getting submitted.

Every fight starts on the feet.

Cain can keep it safe on the feet against Werdum.

 

[DatSamboKid]

In many ways yes, In many ways no.

 

[grzelkaj]

As long as he lays on the ground in anticipation for a submission. I believe he's done it before.

 

[That Idiot Tibor**]

Werdum won't be able to handle the pressure. his striking looks top notch when he can afford to tee off on gassed fighters like Browne and Nelson. Cain will not be standing directly in front of Werdum looking for one big punch.