Discussion in 'Boxing Discussion' started by Destino2018, Oct 13, 2021.
It's ushering in a new era. Issuing makes no sense at all.
Wtf does this even mean?
He's truly The Ultimate Fighter
Hey man, think before you post this crap.
Someone apparently doesn't know about the Lennox Lewis era like 20 years ago
yeah whatever makes you sleep well at night
Issuing? Do you mean 'ushering'? lol
He could be ushering one in but I doubt it
Means the dude you're replying to is a filthy fucking casual and a bandwagon Fury fan.
Best HW boxer p4p of all time?
Or the even taller Klitschko brothers decades long era which followed it...
How does having wide hips equate to less power? Unless you mean his stance, like open hips, but you were talking about his build.
yep, the klitschkos were basically just as tall as fury and wilder. Fury is 6'9 - wilder 6'8 - Vitali was 6'8 , wlad was 6'6/6'7.
and lets not forget the 7'1 former world champ Russian Giant Nikoli Valuev...
All that can be learned. Everyone in mma is from different martial arts, strikers learned TDD and Tyson Fury is already a world class boxer and probably the best out of all current HWs in his era. It's foolish to think that other strikers in mma can learn TDD and Tyson Fury can't. He has elite movement/footwork when most HW fighters lack those skillsets in boxing/mma. Plus Fury has boxing conditioning, he will have better cardio/conditioning than most HWs in boxing/mma. Yes, grappling conditioning is different, but how many HWs in mma are elite grapplers?
The trolling is suggesting Fury is the new wave of huge boxers, when they are have been before him and still are today. AJ is basically as big as got destroyed by a fat boy not long ago and now usyk
His mentality too. You can tell that's one of his strongest traits. Just listen to him talk about the fight, about his training, about his opponents, about his skillsets, and just his overall mindset. You can tell he has a strong mind and that's what pushes him in his training and his fights. He talked about all these distractions and said how it was temporary and he was able to switch up and turn it on once everything was situated. Even though he lost weeks of training it was never an issue in his head. He just figured if he can't beat someone with 6 weeks or less of training he doesn't deserve to be the champion. His thought process is different and that's what really separates him from the rest.
Fury is 6.7 anyway he lies that he's 6'9
I'm just saying that someone THAT tall, wrestling doesn't come easily. Especially when your legs are that long and skinny. Tyson legs make up a large portion of his height.
Look at Tim Sylvia for example. Just talking body types here. He could learn to sprawl but someone turns the corner on him on a takedown, and it's just tough to keep up with.
Wrestling relies on full body, dynamic motion. Being able to change direction and momentum quickly in a range of ways. It's just generally going to be tougher for a guy that's 6'9" and especially worse for someone proportioned like Tyson. You want a guy that's more evenly proportioned.
I know you'll disagree and that's fine but you should hear his take on this. He doesn't much like his chances and I appreciate his honesty. Like I said, I'm a fan too.
Punching power being something you are born with is one of the biggest myths of combat sports. Punching power is developed. The power you are born with, and the power you develop through work/training is not the same. Remember Usman? He turned into a KO fighter. It's in the training and technique. Everyone has power, not everyone knows how to punch with power.
Someone with his height he has an advantage with having long legs, he's harder to take down and pick up. It would all be trips and single legs that people would attempt or body lock takedowns. He doesn't need to sprawl, it wouldn't benefit him, he would be better getting a strong base and pulling people up, framing, turning them, etc. He already has a great clinch fighting game.
He doesn't need to be a wrestler, he can use his movement/footwork to compliment his TDD defense. He just needs to learn how to defend takedowns and not get pressed up on the cage. He's strong in the clinch, so bodylocks and clinch fighting isn't the best strategy to use against Fury. He's a strong inside fighter and uses dirty boxing. The first knockdown he got on Wilder in the trilogy fight was from a headlock to uppercut. People are underestimating Fury's fighting skills, Fury can fight and not just box.
So every fighter can be trained to punch as hard as Foreman? Its actually both, natural power and training. Usman always had power, look how jacked he is.
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