Is Tristar and their gym obsolete?

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  1. emax

    emax Black Belt

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    So after seeing GSP struggle as he did against Hendricks it seems clear that even if he had retained the title, and stayed in MMA, it would only be a matter of time before the MMA game was gonna pass him by just as it did Penn and Liddell. Within his next three defenses it was very likely that was gonna happen. And even Tristar's best fighters, Rory MacDonald, Patrick Cote and Francis Carmont, have been doing somewhat decent but not great. With Carmont, many would aruge he has been mediocre at best since it is most commonly believed his wins over Larkin and Tom Lawlor, the latter being a total unknown, don't count as wins.

    Does Tristar just not have any good fighters to work with? Does Canada, with its karate, Muay Thai, Judo and Jiu Jitsu based fighters simply not have the elite athletes it needs to hang in there with the best American UFC fighters, which is holding Tristar back as they get mostly Canadian fighters? Or is Tristar assuming that the fight plan that worked for GSP for so many years is going to work for the new wave of UFC fighters, and assuming so incorrectly?
     
  2. EndlessCritic

    EndlessCritic Gold Belt

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    Rory Macdonald has been doing somewhat decent? huh?
     
  3. LordBarnaby**

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    Tristar has always been a one man show, imo. GSP and that's it.
     
  4. Szwok

    Szwok Brown Belt

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    Georges St-Pierre
    Kenny Florian[2]
    Miguel Torres
    Hatsu Hioki[3]
    David Loiseau
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  5. p4pcummins**

    p4pcummins** Banned Banned

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    lol? Tristar is one of the best gyms if not the best. Do some research bro
     
  6. countswagula

    countswagula Gold Belt

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    Dunno, haven't been there lately
    Or ever
     
  7. theanticool

    theanticool Brown Belt

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    Alex Garcia looks good so far. Rory Mac is still a top ten WW. Carmont is still hanging around the top ten at middleweight.
     
  8. Task

    Task <img src="http://www.mediafire.com/download/r9he12 Platinum Member

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    Wow, lose one fighter, everyone else is forgotten.

    nice TS
     
  9. FallonFoxGOAT

    FallonFoxGOAT Banned Banned

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    Everyone knows Greg Jackson made GSP what he was, not Tristar.
     
  10. p4pcummins**

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    Firas is a better coach then Greg Jackson
     
  11. Kalmah

    Kalmah Gold Belt

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    Thanks for the giggle m8.
     
  12. ryun253

    ryun253 Black Belt

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    BS. He destroyed Rorys image / style.
     
  13. clarkson

    clarkson White Belt

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    GSP probably trains there still a bit im sure
     
  14. MMAdict

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    Tristar is still one of the top gyms in the world. It may on the lower rung of top gyms, when compared to ATT, Jacksons and AKA which are the 3 best.

    I would love to see Mousasi join ATT, since wrestling seems to be a heavy focus there and they have the ability to take non wrestlers and turn them into good mma wrestlers.
     
  15. ben236

    ben236 Silver Belt

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    Greg has much more diversity and can cater his coaching around the particular style of the fighter. Firas basically has his fighters cater to his style of coaching which results in his fighters fighting as if they were clones of one another.
     
  16. Task

    Task <img src="http://www.mediafire.com/download/r9he12 Platinum Member

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    Aye?

    Not sure but...

    u wot m8?
     
  17. p4pcummins**

    p4pcummins** Banned Banned

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    Greg Jackson - I got Jon Jones
    Greg Jackson - Be an artist your arms are like paintbrushes
    Greg Jackson - Ill teach you 3 moves a day

    *Talks about the 4 main disciplines*(Boxing, Muay Thai, Jiu jitsu, Wrestling)
    Some people know 1 discipline really well, some coaches just know a little bit of everything. But Firas knows every discipline really well. It's crazy how his brain works, I just dont get it.

    Firas,man I don't think he knows because I'm quiet but I really look up to him - Jonathan Brookins

    *Quotes arent precise cause it was from a video but you get the point*
     
  18. FallonFoxGOAT

    FallonFoxGOAT Banned Banned

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    Keep in mind the guys' sig you are replying to.

    He might be just a little biased towards Firas and Tristar.
     
  19. Free_MMAson

    Free_MMAson Banned Banned

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    For Firas, coaching is both a full-time job and its Zahabi
     
  20. emax

    emax Black Belt

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    Well he couldn't beat Lawlor and had a weak performance over Ellenberger and so that sort of means he has been doing somewhat decent but not great. And he did have to struggle pretty hard vs Maia, who is probably gonna lose his next two fights in brutal, decisive fashion and then get cut.
     

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